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Subject: Topic: False advertisement in the computerchess business

Author: Hans Gerber

Date: 06:11:59 06/14/00

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Topic 2: False advertisement in the computerchess business

Years ago we had FRITZ win the World championship in Hongkong. Perhaps we can
understand better the actual case of SHREDDER if we remember that ChessBase also
tried to advertise a certain FRITZ engine as the Hongkong version. But only
after the new technique of the opening trees was created (with version FRITZ5)
the old book was presented that was part of the FRITZ Hongkong. Only now you
could play with the "real" version of the winning program. Background:
technically it was not so easy to include that book simply because it was too
big to be kept in the RAM. Only at the time of FRITZ version 5 it made sense to
allow the choice between multiple books. At the time of FRITZ3 it was better to
divide the whole ECO into different small parts ("Powerbooks").

So, we can understand the problem. If FRITZ was advertised as the engine that
won the World Championship, this was correct. But if we take program and opening
book as a unit, the isolated engine did not play at all in Hongkong.

With SHREDDER the situation is different. Nowhere we can read about the
Paderborn engine because this concept is not presented on the mentioned CD.
SHREDDER is being presented as the "whole", the complete and winning Paderborn
version. Actually in 2000 this is false. Because on a single CD you can not have
united the program, the opening book and all the endgame tables. On a different
medium this could well be possible. In future as long as we are talking about
the mass market.

Hans Gerber

On June 13, 2000 at 22:57:09, Albert Silver wrote:


>Depends.
>A race car that won an important race is up for sale. It is advertised as the
>same race car that won that race. Everything is there, down to the tires.
>However, the special racing oil used to improve lubrication and that also helped
>improve its performance is not there. Is it false advertising?
>
>How is this relevant? I see the _engine_ as being the World Championship
>program. Even if the GUI used at Paderborn were completely different from the
>commercial package, and I believe it IS different from the commercial package
>though only Stefan could say, I would still agree that I had gotten the WC
>Shredder. So if you stand by the argument that Shredder isn't really Shredder
>without the tablebases, then we'll just have to agree to disagree here.
>
>
>



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