Author: Albert Silver
Date: 07:21:31 06/14/00
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On June 14, 2000 at 09:16:38, Hans Gerber wrote:
>Topic: The actual situation for computerchess in human tournaments
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>On June 13, 2000 at 22:57:09, Albert Silver wrote:
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>>>You might say that all this is old news. But then look at FRITZ in Holland and
>>>the whole mix-up of protests and denials to play the machine. The DB team has
>>>destroyed much more than the pride of Kasparov. They have shown to the human
>>>players that the computer people have no respect for the human genius. And that
>>>they want to triumph over the human players although they do not understand the
>>>game of chess at all.
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>>How were these two last conclusions reached?
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>>> Sure you will always find some humans or organizations who
>>>will invite computers to participate but mainly it's a question of money either
>>>by sponsorships or by higher numbers of spectators. The mutual respect for each
>>>other however has been destroyed by the behavior of the DB team in 1997. By now
>>>the human players do know how far the computer people are ready to go for a
>>>win...
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>>I don't agree.
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>I came to the conclusions through subtle studying the articles published here in
>CCC.
>In special the reactions on the Bosboom incident. In special there a little
>article coming from Stefan Meyer-Kahlen. But also from many others who showed
>little respect for the problems of human chessplayers.
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>Hans Gerber
Well, first of all, you said that this disrespect that you perceive was
instigated by the DB team. It was this conclusion that I don't understand. As I
explained before (though perhaps you put it in another post below), I don't
perceive the DB team as being guilty of this. I know you are going to refer me
once more to Murray Chandler's comment that "Kasparov can't be happy about it",
and describe this phrase as smug and disrespectful. Perhaps it is, but as anyone
who has been posting for some time can attest to, a written phrase can be heard
VERY differently from the way it was actually said, and intonation can change
everything. So I will withold judgement as that would be jumping to conclusions.
As for the rest, I haven't seen the programmers disrespecting the players at
all. Quite on the contrary. Certainly, some members disagreed with the decision
of some players to boycott the computer and said so in no uncertain terms, but
that is their right, and nor were they a majority representing the computer
chess community.
Albert Silver
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