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Subject: Re: Just learning capability?

Author: blass uri

Date: 21:20:05 06/14/00

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On June 14, 2000 at 21:56:56, Hans Gerber wrote:

>On June 14, 2000 at 19:29:42, blass uri wrote:
>
>>> In
>>>my opinion this is not true. For the reason that machines still have too many
>>>weaknesses in certain positions.
>>
>>There is no doubts that there are many positions when machines are weaker than
>>masters but the problem is that often the masters cannot get the positions when
>>the machines are weaker in a practical game.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I fear that you can talk about a tendency not just certain positions. Of course
>this takes time and training to find out. BTW this is why computers are always
>playing in new versions in matches against strong humans.
>
>What Van Wely did in his game against FRITZ can quite easily be prepared if you
>have at least a week or two to prepare. This is a general weakness of computers.
>Only -- as I wrote to Mr. Corbit -- usually GMs don't have the will and fun in
>playing down such lines. Somehow it doesn't make sense. Human players are human
>beings. They need creative opponents to mobilize their energy...
>
>(It is even worse if money is in the background of such comp vs. human matches.
>Then aspects of public relation come into play.)
>
>What is your opinion?
>
>
>Hans

My opinion is that humans have an advantage if they can play against their
opponent when the opponent does not know about it.

The problem is also that many programs are deterministic and have no leraning by
position so if you do not play with a newer version the machine will have no
chance because the humans can remember a way to win the machine and play it.

Uri



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