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Subject: Re: Something for GMs to think about

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 23:27:31 06/16/00

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On June 17, 2000 at 01:06:48, Adrien Regimbald wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I've noticed that nobody has really looked at the issue of whether it is a good
>idea for a GM to play a computer in purely long term practical considerations.
>
>Eventually, just simply by advances in CPU speed, one can presume that computers
>will reach a point where they can beat the GMs.
>
>With this in mind - it might not be a good long term idea to play the computers
>from the GM's perspective.  Right now, most of the tournaments where computers
>get a chance to play the GMs are only possible by good sponsorship to encourage
>the GMs to play.  Do you think that the companies manufacturing computer
>programs care at all about the GMs?  No - they are in it for the money.  Do you
>think they will continue sponsoring tournaments even after their program
>slaughters the best of GMs 100 times out of 100?  The answer is simple - no.
>
>So the GMs will obviously not be able to rely on the companies advocating the
>computers to sponsor them in the future.  One then has to consider what will
>happen to the other sponsors.  I can't be sure about this, but I would imagine
>that the other sponsors would probably be much less interested in sponsoring a
>GM tournament when every player in the world has a home program which is
>stronger than any of the GMs.
>
>I don't know if this is truly the reason that they don't wish to play, but it is
>surely something to think about.
>
>Whatever the GMs' reasons - I would hope that we can be a little more
>understanding of their plight.  Even if the GMs are scared to play the machines,
>I don't think we should be crucifying them for it.  I think that all too often,
>the attitude in this forum seems to be that the GMs are nothing more than guinea
>pigs for our own amusement.
>
>Perhaps if we were a little more understanding of the GMs, and we stopped
>approaching the issue like bagging another trophy for computer chess rather than
>a scientific effort to improve computer chess programs, maybe, just maybe, the
>attitude among the GMs would change as well.
>
>Can you imagine the difference if instead of having this outlook "If I lose this
>game, I'm out of the prize money, and I will be publically humiliated", that the
>GMs had this outlook "I'm participating in an effort to advance computer chess,
>which could end up having many positive benefits" ?
>
>Just some food for thought.
>
>
>Regards,
>Adrien.

About the future: at the moment it still is a kind of shame to lose from
a computer. This makes a GM careful to play. However things are changing
rapidly. Soon there will be a time that GM's will consider it as a big
thing to win from a computer since there is only to win and nothing to
lose. Then we see the opposite happen: big headers in magazines, "GM wins
from computer XXX", the GM on his home page he has beaten the monster,
postings in CCC will drop with 35% because it is no news anymore to win
from a GM, instead it will be only news if a computer loses. How do you
think producers will feel then?

:)

Ed



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