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Subject: Re: Tinker Results Re: The Scalable Search Test

Author: Brian Richardson

Date: 12:20:00 06/18/00

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On June 18, 2000 at 12:57:26, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On June 18, 2000 at 12:43:32, Brian Richardson wrote:
>
>>Tinker's results are listed below.  Tinker extends one ply during normal "full
>>width" search for checks, pawns on 7th, and various recaptures.  The 13(30/39)
>>indicates that the mate (in 8) was found in the full width search at 13 ply,
>>the deepest full width extension was to 30 ply, and the deepest q-search was
>>39 ply. Note the score changes at ply 10 and again at ply 12.
>>
>[snip]
>> 10      194   6.48   2344512  1.  h3h5  g6h5  2.  h1h5  g8f8  3.  h5h7  f8e8
>>                               4.  d3f5  e8d8  5.  f5f7  a6a4  6.  f7e7  d8c8
>>                               7.  e7d6  a4a2  8.  d6c5  c8d8
>> 10->    194   7.98   3207267  1.  h3h5  g6h5  2.  h1h5  g8f8  3.  g8f8  f8e8
>>                               4.  d3f5  e8d8  5.  f5f7  a6a4  6.  f7e7  d8c8
>>                               7.  e7d6  a4a2  8.  d6c5  c8d8
>> 11      194   8.09   3249107  1.  h3h5  g6h5  2.  h1h5
>> 11->    194  11.05   5052676  1.  h3h5  g6h5  2.  h1h5
>> 12     1915  13:58 444200966  1.  h3h5  g8f8  2.  h5h7  f8e8  3.  h7f7  a6c4
>>                               4.  d3g6  c4f1  5.  h1f1  e8d8  6.  g6e6  d8c7
>>                               7.  c3a5  b7b6  8.  f7e7  c7d8  9.  e6d6  d8c8
>
>Thanks a lot! This is exactly what I was looking for.
>
>BTW. Do you use an aspiration search (alpha-beta window)? If so how wide. From
>what I see here I'd say no but I want to be sure.
>
>I am using nearly the same extensions (but not on recapture) and I'm getting
>very similar results. Except that my program runs 10 times slower and I didn't
>have the patience to way for 2 hours ;)
>
>From what I've got now, my guess would be that the one-on-check is what
>kills this search. Fractional ply extensions anyone? ;)
>
>--
>GCP

Not sure about aspiration search--Tinker does limit the window to
(-alpha-1,-alpha) after the first move at any ply has been searched, but
does not limit the window to begin with, although I think this is normal
PVS search.
Brian



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