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Subject: Re: What is the average nodes per second for minimax?

Author: leonid

Date: 16:40:49 06/19/00

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On June 19, 2000 at 13:37:16, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On June 19, 2000 at 00:32:26, leonid wrote:
>
>>On June 18, 2000 at 19:18:10, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>
>>>lenoid, do not call material evaluation "positional." They [basically] have
>>>nothing to do with each other. Also, do not refer to evaluations as "partial" or
>>
>>
>>Logic that deel with material echange is for me 100% positional logic. Reason is
>>simple - slightest change in position on the chess board lead sooner or later to
>>some material lost or gain. If you look into material echange, you look into
>>position on it as well.
>
>Chess programmers need to differentiate between counting material and
>calculating other positional terms. So we use the words "material" for counting
>material and "positional" for everything else. If you want to be understood on
>this forum, you need to use these words too, regardless of whether or not they
>make sense.
>
>>>"perfect" or "final truth" or "general orientation." These words are extremely
>>>confusing because you don't bother to define them, so you are the only person in
>>>the world who understands them. Besides, the only word you need is "evaluation."
>>>You just write an evaluation function, it returns a number which is the
>>>evaluation, and then you're done. It's so extremely simple. No need to talk
>>>about it until everybody's confused and exasperated.
>>>-Tom
>>
>>Agree with you that I must use more "standard wording". I hope that with the
>>time I will come to this. Already I know what is the "ply", "effective branching
>>factor" and few other expressions. Some will come to me later. But finally, Tom,
>>we are not in Academy of Science. Chess Club is something like a forum in
>>ancient Greece. Place where prominent people and ordinary populace can mix
>>together and talk to each other in some simple way.
>
>Right, but you're not talking in "some simple way." You come in here using terms
>that you invent and expect people to understand them simply because you put
>quotes around them. It just doesn't work. I have no idea what you're trying to
>communicate 90% of the time, and I'd be surprised if anybody else on this forum
>is doing any better.
>
>-Tom

Will try to be more careful. Thanks!

Leonid.



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