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Subject: Re: Moderation - Re: What are they smoking at Club Kasparov??

Author: Ralf Elvsén

Date: 17:18:34 06/19/00

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On June 19, 2000 at 18:11:34, Hans Gerber wrote:

>On June 19, 2000 at 08:51:57, Ralf Elvsén wrote:
>
>>On June 19, 2000 at 08:01:43, Hans Gerber wrote:
>>
>>>On June 18, 2000 at 22:28:55, Pete R. wrote:
>>>
>>>>I went to their site to check out the live Frankfurt games, but couldn't seem to
>>>>get anything actually moving other than the clocks.  So I decided to check out
>>>>the playing zone there.  Lame!  Not only is it web-based as opposed to having a
>>>>real playing client, but banner ads pop up *during* games.  What idiot thought
>>>>this up?
>>>
>>>snip
>>>
>>>
>>>It is apparently quite normal to call Kasparov or anyone out of his staff
>>>__idiot__ here in this CCC.
>>>
>>>This is not consistant with the so-called moderation politics. But it reveils
>>>the general attitude of computerchess people towards real chessplayers. More so
>>>if it's coming along under anonymity.
>>>
>>>
>>>Hans Gerber
>>
>>I see his comments as directed towards kasparovchess.com in general.
>>It has nothing to do with Kasparov. We must be allowed to call a company
>>"idiotic"
>
>
>Mr. Pete R. wrote "idiot" not "idiotic".

Pete R. (in a post below this one) explained my point. I have nothing
to add. Or do you really mean that every criticism that, by only the
most imaginative person, could be seen as directed towards some anonymous
and perhaps only in theory identifyable person at a company,
should be removed by the moderators?

>
>>when we think it provides inferior sevices. Now, look at you
>>own post: "...the general attitude of computerchess people..." Sweeping
>>generalizations is a bad habit.
>
>I have several examples for that tendency. In that case I build a theory. Of
>course it's a generalization. A theory is always a generalization. Since when
>this is a bad habit? The using of the word "idiot" is ok, but my theory is bad?
>

I can be a nitpicker as well. You have
expressed your disappointment when "real chessplayers" have not been
shown the proper respect. You are in your full right to do so,
and in some cases I agree with you.

Your sweeping generalization, in my opinion, is to extend this to the
"computerchess people". Some/many of them might agree with you.
You have just been arguing with a handfull.
Then to say that this generalization (which I just think is sloppyness) is to
"build a theory" is a severe abuse of the meaning of these words.

Ralf Elvsén

>
>Hans Gerber
>
>
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>>Ralf Elvsén



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