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Subject: Re: What is the average nodes per second for minimax?

Author: leonid

Date: 18:18:07 06/21/00

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On June 21, 2000 at 19:03:40, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On June 21, 2000 at 17:07:06, leonid wrote:
>
>>On June 21, 2000 at 13:38:41, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>
>>>If you think that material-only evaluation programs are good for anything,
>>>you're sadly mistaken.
>>
>>
>>I said only that material evaluation is evaluation about everything in principe.
>>About tactics... or just say it. I agree that in actual state of hardware it is
>>not enough have only material evaluation, but its importance  will grow as
>>rapidly as hardware capacity will improve. Very soon program that have in its
>
>Only evaluating material has zero importance. Why would you do it when you can
>evaluate material AND positional terms with no penalty? Besides, material is
>just a rule of thumb, just like any positional term. Thinking that you can make
>a good program by only considering material is absurd, no matter how fast your
>computer is.
>-Tom

Do we speak about my program or about general idea? If we speak about my program
it is not that interesting, since we will talk only about one program in
particular. When we speak about general idea, yes, material echange can say
everything. Only through the material echange you can find mate or draw. By the
same mean you can find all other move in the game, name it positional, tactical
or otherwise. We can talk how much computer power we need for the best program
right now to find this or other kind of move, but this is something else. Idea
is simple - material echange do everything and everywhere. In chess game logic
is enough to see everything in it from beginning up to the end.

Leonid.



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