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Subject: Re: Mod: - The relevance of a good treatment of chessplayers for CCC

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 22:44:39 06/21/00

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On June 21, 2000 at 22:33:44, Hans Gerber wrote:

>Ok then, thank you for this one.
>
>The only negative aspect of your post is the fact that you do not happen to be a
>programmer. So most of our exchange has indirect meaning or a demonstrative
>character.
>
>As to the general content of your article concerning the style of postings in
>CCC in general in relation to (ok let's take) Kasparov, I hope that you agree
>with me that computerchess sites should keep up a certain decent climate just
>for the effects to the outer world... and its internal atmosphere.
>
>To speak it out I am deeply concerned about the way some important persons here
>have commented on Kasparov in the past. I am very sure that beyond all possible
>deviances in his personality Kasparov was treated in a very unfair manner for
>his behavior during and after the match against DB. Because Kasparov asked the
>questions Hsu and his team should also and primarily have asked! This is by no
>means a case closed. Think of the damage for certain figures if it should be
>proven that K's thoughts were justified... Think of the damage to the American
>computerchess community if it becomes known that their best figures violated the
>rules of science. For me it is already proven.
>
>It would be good if such a development would be foreseen and integrated into the
>politics of computerchess people.
>
>As to the specific content regarding the meaning of your characterization of the
>website kasparov.com all depends on the future tendency. Only then it could be
>understood if I exaggerated or felt a minor important relevance and could stop a
>trend just in time with my attention.
>
>
>The general question of the details of the match between Kasparov and DB however
>will not disappear, and not because some people like me but because the final
>solution has not been found yet.
>
>(The question of the relevance of findings with micros like Fritz or Hiarcs in
>isolated positions for the understanding of big machines like DB, that is just
>one example. Unfortunately it has always been achieved to bash that sort of
>questions as being a part of a general propaganda against IBM or the DB team.
>When in real it is a very interesting scientifical question. Interesting for all
>who are not primarily interested in the very details of chess programming.)

In a petulant fit, Kasparov accused the Deep Blue team of cheating.  Does "No
computer can make that move!" ring a bell?

He burned his own bridges.  His questions were well over the line of reasonable
inquiries into procedures and data.  He really stepped his foot into it.

No amount of information that the DB team can ever present would satisfy all the
neigh-sayers.

Garry Kasparov is probably the best chess player this world has ever seen.  I am
among those who think he is probably better than Deep Blue.  But his behavior
after the match was churlish, childish, petty, naive, and rude.

Those are the kindest words I can possibly summon to describe it.

Be that as it may, I still think he is the best chess player the world has ever
seen, and perhaps ever will see.



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