Author: Chris Whittington
Date: 05:03:52 11/05/97
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On November 05, 1997 at 07:40:55, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On November 05, 1997 at 04:53:25, Chris Whittington wrote: > >>The icca went into overkill and shipped all their guys over. They don't >>travel economy or stay in 2 star hotels like most of the competitors; so >>the costs of club class returns from Canada and 4 star Paris hotels >>would have run to over $10,000. Quite a slice of the presumed $20,000 >>sponsorship. > >Marsland, Levy, and van den Herik were there. > >It bothers me when you write stuff like this because you assume the >worst, you report the worst, and I don't think you check, either. > >You don't report what they paid for these flights (two from Europe, I >assume), and you don't report what hotel they stayed in or how much it >cost. > >You had a lot of opportunity to ask these questions. > >Maybe you could ask these questions and report the answers. Last time I asked similar questions I got massively flamed by you, Bob, Bruce, Don Beal and Schaeffer. Remember the 'icca officers are not paid' ? This turned into the 'icca officer who is paid and chris whittington has accused us of lying and dishonesty' thread. Actually all I did was to have exposed payments that were not known and previously denied. Such questions as these are not allowed, Bruce - you know that. I can use my intuition and knowledge from the past. They do stay in 4-5 stars, because so do I, and I see them there. If you stay in 4-5 stars, you also travel club class, the two go together. If you're 40+ and wear a suit and have a professor title you are very unlikely to be doing the 10 hours or so international flight in economy. But whatever, they can travel how they want, this is no criticism. i'm not trying to get them into the ship's forward ballast chamber for a 10 day atlantic crossing; merely pointing out that it costs maybe 50% of the sponsorship money to fly these guys intercontinental. Maybe a better investment would have been in a local french electrical engineer with a couple of plugs and sockets ? And use a local icca official ? It has to be cheaper. Then I (and others) don't have to keep paying out $1000's .... ? How about scrap the amateur / professional status, scrap the $1000, and use local (and therefore cheaper) icca officials ? Bruce ? btw club class from usa to europe is £2500 - £3500 per person. That's about $5000. French hotels (good ones in Paris) are $200 per night per person at least. Add it up. Comes to around $10,000. that's a lot of money to pay for an inability to find a modem plug, no ? Ifd it were $5000 it woudl be too much. $3000 too much as well. Think of all those $1000's entry fees ...... I don't like paying $1000. So apparently don't various other people. when I see what it gets spent on and what fails to get done, I get angry about it. Does this surprise you ? Chris Whittington > >bruce
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