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Subject: Moderation Re: Universal protection and not only for compchess people

Author: Hans Gerber

Date: 03:50:16 06/23/00

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On June 23, 2000 at 00:02:23, Robert Hyatt wrote:


>That is a crock.  Your "opponent" pointed out flaws in your reasoning, and
>finally suggested you post under your real name, which is pretty obvious to
>some that have recognized your 'style'.
>
>You don't discuss, you ramble and obfuscate and pontificate, all without
>saying anything new or informative.


Must I repeat that it was and still is new and informative that you declared
something wrong for several weeks and that I gave proof for that. It is about
the mean accusation against Kasparov that he had accused deliberately the DB
team of cheating. What I achieved is the proof that in the given documents
Kasparov did never do this.

This might not be spectacular and new for _you_...

Remember? _You_ declared you had evidence for the accusation in a certain press
conference after game two. Truth is that you could not present your evidence and
that there was no press conference at all after game two with Kasparov. The
document you gave then did not contain what you had declared. In the text about
the press conference after game three there is nothing you could interprete as
the accusation of cheating. Still you continue to repeat the same _old_ and
_unproven_ theories.


How would you classify that personal style?


If you do not like to be corrected, _your_ business, if you do not want to speak
with me, leave me alone, but do not try to supervise or attack me with
ridiculous assumptions. Either talk with me about computerchess and events like
Kasparov vs. DB or leave me alone. I am sorry but you brought this special
accent of ad hominem into the debate.




>
  You think Kasparov was wronged.  I think
>Kasparov wronged the DB team.  You keep your view.  I will keep mine.
>
>end of story...  more or less.
>


For the many members here in CCC it would be better to talk about the different
views. Note that I do not keep my view against all possible evidence. Or could
you imagine why I asked you for your special evidence for so long? But you can
not hold up your very personal views if the evidence - you had pretended to have
- - -  is simply not existing.


But the most important fact for the debate is the truth that _even if_ Kasparov
would have behaved "like nuts", if he had directly accused them of cheating (in
private and in public), the scientists of the DB team must have kept their
personal concern under control - just to the best of their testing procedures.
They should have talked to him, explained the situation to him, so that he could
have kept his emotions under control again.

This is so basic, that I do not understand why you could miss that detail...
Of course the (alleged) "accusations" must very personally hurt you if you are
befriended with members of the team, but does this change one single standard of
science that had to be respected universally?



Hans Gerber



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