Author: blass uri
Date: 06:24:23 06/24/00
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On June 24, 2000 at 09:13:46, blass uri wrote: >On June 24, 2000 at 07:48:59, David Dahlem wrote: > >> >>On June 23, 2000 at 23:41:15, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>On June 23, 2000 at 23:37:31, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>On June 23, 2000 at 23:32:16, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 23, 2000 at 13:28:03, David Dahlem wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On June 23, 2000 at 11:18:33, Daniel Chancey wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Your book, ~nunn.obk has only 403 book lines. This is unacceptable to be used >>>>>>>in tournaments or computer vs comptuer challenges. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Castle2000 >>>>>> >>>>>>The Nunn book was created for testing personality settings only, not for >>>>>>strength. In my opionion, it gives more consistent results since neither side >>>>>>gets an advantage from the opening book. >>>>>>Dave >>>>> >>>>>The easier way to avoid an advantage without going thru the problems of >creating a specific book like the Nunn book, is to set an amount of games that >you are willing to test the personalities, for instance if your goal is to >only test it for 30 games, then let one personality plays 15 games with the >white pieces,then switch the personalities side of the board and replay those >15 previous opening, allowing both personalities to play 15 diferrent openings >with both sides of the board. >>> >>>PS: I forgot to mentioned that the first 15 games you simply allow the program >>>to select whatever opening it desire to play and of course eliminate a repeated >>>opening in the first 15 games. >>>>> >>>>>Pichard. >>Yes, that is one good way to run personality tests. Using an opening book with >>only equal lines is another. The ideal way to test is without using an opening >>book at all. >>Dave > >This is the worst way to test because if you use deterministic programs you will >get the same games again and again. > >You may also get wrong results because some programmers did not include some >knowledge about opening because opening book covers this knowledge most of the >time. > >Uri If you want to play without opening books you can give programs this illegal position: [D]RNBQKBNR/PPPPPPPP/8/8/8/8/pppppppp/rnbqkbnr w - - 0 1 I played some games in the past from this position but I do not think that the result is important because it can tell you almost nothing about the ability of programs to play chess. I also think that playing without opening book tells you wrong information about the ability of programs to play chess. Uri
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