Author: blass uri
Date: 10:45:51 06/24/00
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On June 24, 2000 at 13:28:39, Mogens Larsen wrote: >On June 24, 2000 at 11:59:40, blass uri wrote: > >>It can be described as wrong if the target is to see which program is better in >>chess(remember that opening book is part of the program) > >No, it can't be described as wrong when the topic was playing games without a >book. Especially since the two programs are identical except for the settings. >In general it is best IMO to use the complete program, which includes an opening >book. > >>Some knowledge is less important if you have opening book. >>The programmers assume that their program will use an opening book so playing >>without opening book is playing a game that many programmers did not prepare to >>play. > >All knowledge is equally important. The difference is that it's possible to >rectify lack of opening knowledge with a book. Some programs have a very >specialized book, which gives them an advantage, some don't. Some programs have >a lot of opening knowledge, which gives them an advantage when playing without a >book, other programs haven't. Several aspects of computer chess programs can be >evaluated in the same way. That has nothing to do with wrong or right, or >fairness. That's just the way it is. > >>You have the right to do it(I also did it when I tested Junior and told the >>programmer about problems that I found). > >I prefer to use an opening book myself. I just think your argumentation lacks >any kind of logic given the context of this thread. That's it. > >Best wishes... >Mogens Suppose a program does not understand the french defence with black and has a book that does not allow it to get the french defence. If I play with it without opening book in order to test personalities I may get games with the french defence. The results of these games are not relevant to decide which personality is best in games because in practical game the program will never play the french defence. If I want to know about the level of the personality in practical games using the program's book is better. Uri
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