Author: Amir Ban
Date: 08:03:03 11/05/97
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On November 05, 1997 at 05:44:12, Chris Whittington wrote: > >On November 05, 1997 at 05:25:53, Thorsten Czub wrote: > >>On November 05, 1997 at 04:29:45, Amir Ban wrote: >> >>>On October 31, 1997 at 16:51:36, Ingo Althofer wrote: >>> >>> >>>>A special case is Junior. In round 4 it won against Ferret. However, >>>>Junior started the tournament on a K6-200 and switched to a PII-300 >>>>at some point. Currently I don't know on which hardware Junior >>>>played this round 4. >>>> >>> >>>Junior played on the K6-200 the first 5 rounds (first P6-300 was 6th >>>round against CSTal). So the Ferret game does deserve the beer ! >>> >>>Amir >> >>Hi Amir !! It is nice to see you healthy back. I had a rough travelling, >>because I wanted to cross the french border before the >>lorry-driver-strike stops any traffic ! >> Hi Thorsten ! Does it really suit your ideology to complain about a STRIKE ?? >>I am awaiting your engine to upgrade my FRITZ. Hurry !! I want to find >>out more about your program ! > >We know some stuff now ...... > It's the "let's speculate out loud to attract more information" trick again, Chris ? This never fails to work. >SSDF nearly 2400 > >150,000 nps on the P2 300 > Closer to 240-250K. >This is comparable to Nimzo / Fritz / Ferret / Crafty. So he's either a >pre-processor or a tip node processor doing fast evaluations like these. > To my knowledge this is south of Fritz / Nimzo but north of Ferret / Crafty. >Junior was printing 13,14,15 at each iteration. Amir said this was >'half-plies'. (Frans Morsch quipped he'ld start printing quarter-plies >on Fritz for PR purposes) > >Amir said this half ply count was full width. So he gets 7 or so full >width plus extensions on tournament times. > Yes, but don't forget that Junior is not null-move. This gets a bigger sensation these days than saying you are not alpha-beta. The search is rather heavily extended. >The games I saw, Junior looked to be generating king attacks quite >often. At 150,000 nps I doubt he has sufficient time to effectively >evaluate a good kign-attack term, so my guess is that he is >pre-processing himself into these positions. This is probably random. > >The user-interface graphics screen is horrible. Amir spends him time on >chess stuff, not looking pretty. > You should have seen it before it was improved and made pretty. > >Going out on a limb, without much evidence, I think junior is a >pre-processor but has done something clever to get round the inherent >problems. This had given him a good edge. > >Chris Whittington > > >> >>Have a nice day !
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