Author: pete
Date: 09:58:47 06/26/00
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On June 26, 2000 at 12:05:18, Fernando Villegas wrote: >Hi my friend: >How strong do you think Bringer is in this new 1,7 incarnation is? AS you maybe >know my only way to test the strenght of the programs is just playing myself >against them at 40 moves in 90 minutes, then 40 moves at 60 and the rest at 60. >Scarcely I need the third control and usually very few moves of the second...:-( >Nevertheless, I can get some feeling of the power of each monster or I believe I >can, but sometimes you lose the track because your own strenght becomes not >quite clear. This is precisely the case with Bringer. I cannot decide if it is a >near 2300 or just a 2200 player. I just draw againts it once and again as if we >were of the same strenght, but I tend to thinks I am still the 2100 or something >more - perhaps 2200 in my really good days- I always has been since many years. >So then Bringer is not more than that or it is, but something is its playing >style make me comfortable with it. Dgeorge, which is your impression? Or >perhaps I have improved my strenght AGAINST computer with the years... Or more: >well, I fought 37 moves againts Karpov after all...:-) >Fernando Hi Fernando , until your friend arrives in the club I might as well try to entertain you a little... Your results somehow go along very well with many games I have watched Bringer1.7 in various incarnations play on ICC. I also compaired them with other amateur programs ( where those effects don't seem to be happen that much ) and I think it is something very interesting with this Bringer version . 1.) It plays reasonably well against computers . 2.) It plays reasonably well against the well-known medium-level computerkiller-titled-players like N-De-Firmian or D-Zagorskis or in general against all human players above 2400 it played . 3.) It scores relatively bad against humans between 2000-2200 who are used to play against computers . In fact this is in my opinion not due to being more vulnerable against things like the Stonewall ( or similar ) but mainly due to allowing too many draws and lack of technique . Where I think Bringer1.6 was very balanced though not always spectacular Bringer1.7 is IMHO much more like a young horse at the moment . Ok , after this long preface;hey Fernando, I am curious ,could you send me those games :-) ??? regards. pete
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