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Subject: Re: ICC GreenList

Author: Will Singleton

Date: 12:58:22 06/26/00

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On June 26, 2000 at 15:26:12, Steffen Jakob wrote:

>On June 26, 2000 at 15:08:08, Peter Skinner wrote:
>
>>>Hit the nail on the head.  The entire function of the list is to track the
>>>strength of new engines without having to cower in the shadow of Crafty.
>>>
>>
>>Well as I asked on ICC why Crafty was not on the list, I got the response that
>>the list is for programs that are under constant developement, and to track how
>>each version gets stronger and stronger... and is for "Amateur" programs.
>>
>>By what definition is a "amateur" program classified?
>>
>>Is it a program that is not sold, given away free, and is by a sigle author?
>>
>>Or is it a program that is simply not as strong as Crafty, thus has to be
>>included?
>>
>>That makes no sense...
>>
>>Crafty by most in the computer chess world ( Commercially speaking and the SSDF
>>) do not consider Crafty as a "professional" program.
>>
>>I have just wondered this, as I feel it is an darn fine "amateur" program, and
>>should be included..
>>
>>It seems that once again Bob is getting passed over for recongition that he
>>deserves.
>
>I also would like to see crafty on that list. Will Singleton will prob. answer
>your question. My guess is that the list only has accounts which play other
>comps. Crafty doesnt have "!computer" in its formula but its so restricted that
>even Ferret with a rating of >3100 (!!) wasnt able to match crafty some days
>ago.
>
>Best wishes,
>Steffen.

That's a good point.  But really, if Hyatt isn't a pro, then no one is.  Not
what I'd call a "green" programmer.

Will



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