Author: blass uri
Date: 03:26:35 06/27/00
Go up one level in this thread
On June 27, 2000 at 06:21:50, blass uri wrote: >On June 26, 2000 at 21:03:42, Laurence Chen wrote: > >>On June 26, 2000 at 13:14:12, Terry Ripple wrote: >> >>>I'am looking for this in a program as i'll then have a better positional player >>>though maybe there is no answer for this. I would like to believe otherwise1 >>> >>>Regards, >>>Terry >>IMHO, it's Junior 5 or Junior 6. It knows how to shift pieces in closed >>positions to achieve a goal. However, I still believe that this is an area >>which chess engines need to improve a lot. >>Laurence > >I guess that Junior has evaluation function only for moves like other programs >and does not caculate goals to achieve like humans. > >I believe that thinking also in terms of goals is important for chess because >programs sometimes cannot see tactics because they do not think where they want >there pieces to be. > >Here is an example: > >[D]r1r5/BRp3pk/Q1P4p/3p1p2/3Pp2q/2P1Pb2/P4PP1/1R4K1 w - - 0 1 > >How much time do program needs to see that white is losing. > >white lost in the game after 27.Qf1 Re8 28.Bb8 Raxb8 29.Rxb8 Re6 30.Rf8 Rg6 >31.Rxf5 Rxg2+. > >There is nothing better than Rxf5 because the saving material move Rbb8 is >losing against the original plan Rg5 with the idea Rh5 and Qh1# > >How many programs know that the rook wants to be at h5? > >How many programs know that it is important to extend the lines when the rook >does the quiet moves Re8,Re6,Rg6,Rg5,Rh5 and knows also that Raxb8 is an >important move to extend because the white bishop is a defending piece? > >I believe that no program of today but I may be wrong about it. > >Uri I forgot to say that the example is from the game fritz-kramnik. I also do not criticize programmers for not teaching their programs to calculate goals because it is not a simple task to do but if there is only one program that knows to calculate goals even if it is not better than other programs than I want to know about it. Uri
This page took 0 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.