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Subject: Re: Interesting CST position

Author: Robin Smith

Date: 16:39:42 06/27/00

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On June 27, 2000 at 17:41:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 27, 2000 at 14:44:10, Robin Smith wrote:
>
>>On June 27, 2000 at 08:43:49, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>
>>>Thorsten posted an interesting position in
>>>http://www.oxford-softworks.com/cgi-bin/forums/mschess/558.html:
>>>
>>>[D]2R5/4k1pp/p3p3/4P1p1/p3N3/q1P4P/2P1P1P1/1K6 w - -; bm e4d6;
>>>
>>>Thorsten's comments:
>>>
>>>"Here how CSTal2.03 plays on my k6-3/400:
>>>
>>>1. d9 8"
>>>2. d12 105"
>>>3. d14 475" >1.17
>>>4. d14 615" +4.24 e4d6 g7g6 e2e3 h7h6 e3e4 g5g4 h3g4 h6h5 g4h5 g6h5 g2g3
>>>
>>>1.After 8 seconds for the first time the key-move , than changed into another.
>>>
>>>2.After 105 seconds it has the Nd6 again in depth 12.
>>>
>>>3.After 475 seconds it gets a fail high to >1.17.
>>>
>>>4.After 615 it knows HOW high and says +4.24 with the main-line shown above."
>>>
>>>Aside from CST 2.03, only Genius 6.5 (and older versions, I guess) finds the
>>>right line in less than 5 minutes and fails high. Shredder 4 and SOS pick Nd6,
>>>but with a wrong line and a 0.00 evaluation. Tiger, Fritz, Junior, Hiarcs,
>>>Nimzo, Rebel, AnMon, Crafty, CM6K, don't see that the black queen is trapped and
>>>white can zugzwang black.
>>>
>>>Enrique
>>
>>Very interesting position!!  The pieces on both sides are in zugswang, so the
>>pawns decide everything.  After 1.Nd6 g6 2.e3 h6 3.e4 I think 3. ... h5 instead
>>of 3. ... g4? is a better defensive try, but afterwards 4.g3! g4 5.h4! (5.hg? hg
>>=) g5 6.hg h4 7.g6 hg 8.g7 g2 9.g8=N+! and mate in two.  So programs that can't
>>see underpromotions (Junior5) won't ever solve this one.  And the underpromotion
>>occuring on ply 17 in a position where black threatens mate in one doesn't make
>>it easy for ANY program.  Congratulations to CSTal!
>>
>>Robin Smith
>
>
>Do you really think it understood this game?  Or do you think it was just
>"lucky"???

Failing high with a score > 4 pawns sure sounds like it "understood" to me.

Robin Smith



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