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Subject: Re: Hans Gerber is suspended--thanks for your understanding

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 10:25:34 06/30/00

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On June 30, 2000 at 05:23:31, Michael Cummings wrote:

>On June 30, 2000 at 04:03:30, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>>On June 29, 2000 at 23:15:42, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>On June 29, 2000 at 18:35:42, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 29, 2000 at 18:32:02, Amir Ban wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 29, 2000 at 17:30:24, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>We (the moderators) have been getting a lot of user feedback regarding Hans
>>>>>>Gerber. This afternoon, we finally decided to (temporarily) suspend him. The
>>>>>>process took so long because of disagreements between moderators, his reluctance
>>>>>>to identify himself, etc. I apologize for the "delayed reaction" and hope that
>>>>>>our action appropriately addresses everybody's complaints.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>I admit that I've not been following the controversy around Hans very closely,
>>>>>but from what I read I didn't see anything wrong or extraordinary about him.
>>>>>
>>>>>To set the minds of all of us at rest that you are not engaged in senseless
>>>>>bullying, can you explain why this happened ?
>>>>
>>>>I believe people were upset with him because he's a troll.
>>>>
>>>>He's been temporarily suspended because Hans Gerber is not his real name. CCC
>>>>policy requires members to use their real names.
>>>>
>>>>-Tom
>>>
>>>1) Was he asked to stop being a troll?  Was he warned not to post in a
>>>particular manner about a particular topic?
>>>
>>>2) Are you sure that Hans Gerber is not his real name?  I don't ask you for
>>>proof, I would just like to know.
>>>
>>>I would like to suggest that if the policy is that members use their real names,
>>>that if someone posts with an obvious pseudonym, that they be asked to submit
>>>their real name to Tim, so he can update the membership list.  I don't think it
>>>is fair that old members are grandfathered in.  This sounds like a contrived
>>>excuse to go after one guy.  You've got guys posting with obvious pseudonyms
>>>every day, but someone with a very natural sounding name is singled out.  Why?
>>>
>>>bruce
>>
>>This was the policy instituted by Steve Schwartz when the current moderators
>>took over. He posted a message about it on or about the day we started. The
>>policy is that members who joined before that date could keep their pseudonyms.
>>Everyone after that date had to use their real names.
>>
>>I guess the idea is that we have a finite number of anonymous people.
>>
>>Andrew Williams
>>CCC Moderator
>
>I pity the guy who joins with the last name Smith or Jones. Since they are the
>largest two names in the world that people have as a last name.

No, we don't kick out Smiths or Joneses (or Meyers, etc.).

It's usually pretty obvious when somebody picks a fake name to attack CCC.

We don't do any investigation unless something looks suspicious. Even then, the
only thing we do in most cases is a tracert to verify that the person is from
the place that he says he is.

-Tom



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