Author: blass uri
Date: 10:44:02 06/30/00
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On June 30, 2000 at 12:59:37, Bertil Eklund wrote: >On June 30, 2000 at 08:03:48, blass uri wrote: > >>On June 30, 2000 at 06:05:46, Tony Hedlund wrote: >> >>>On June 30, 2000 at 02:51:13, Bertil Eklund wrote: >>> >>>>On June 29, 2000 at 18:37:56, Rajen Gupta wrote: >>>> >>>>>could you tell how many games were won or lost before actual play started ie in >>>>>the opening itself-i remember a few yrs back MCP was notorious for its killer >>>>>lines-are these lines now toothless or do the new programmes know how to avoid >>>>>them? >>>>> >>>>>rajen >>>> >>>>Hi! >>>> >>>>McP8 has a new wider book almost without killer-lines. It includes IMO several >>>>suicide lines instead. >>>> >>>> >>>>Bertil >>> >>>Yes, it lost a lot(6)of games in the B87 variation as white. >>> >>>Tony >> >>This is a problem in the learning function. >>I found that it could draw some games in the B87 variation for example it drew >>game 30 but could not repeat the same line in game 38. >> >>game 30 >> >>[D]r4r1k/6pp/3Q1b2/4p3/8/4B3/q5PP/3R1RK1 w - - 0 1 >> >>mchesspro8 drew by 26.Bc5 and in game 38 in the same position mchess played >>26.Qb4 and lost >> >>I also do not understand the reason for repeating the same line that give white >>a position with a pawn down. >> >>The question is if it can happen without the autoplayer(I do not 100% trust the >>autoplayers and if I see programs do something stupid one of the possible reason >>that I think of is the autoplayer). >> >>Uri >Hi! > >Mcpro doesn't have a book-learner only position-learning. Play with Mcp6 and it >plays after 1.e4-e5 2.Bc4 in about 90% of the games with or without autoplayer. >If it runs in a hopeless opening position say -2 it's very hard to save this >with the position-learner. > >Bertil I can understand repeating the same opening lines that you lost when the reason for the loss was in the middle game and not in the opening(inspite of the fact that it may be counter productive in the ssdf games because it can cause programs to play lines that they do not like) but when the problem was in the opening not using book learning is unforgivable. Uri
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