Author: Chris Whittington
Date: 06:15:57 11/07/97
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On November 07, 1997 at 08:12:04, Rivat, Joel wrote: >If I summarize correctly the impressions posted here about WMCCC 15th: IMO this summary is not correct at all. >1/ Titus was unable to do anything correctly IMO the difficulties were not of Titus's making >2/ Paris is the worst place in the world because > a/ every step you hit a pile of shit this is just a stupid comment by Thorsten. Germans think the French are dirty, its a prejudice. > b/ hotels ** are awful and *** rabbit hutchy some are, some not. depends. > c/ food is tremendously expensive food is normal priced. problem for Thorsten is the lack of currywurst. > d/ it's almost impossible to drive there I drove at the first weekend. paris is fine if you know your way round the general one-way systems. Parkign is hell unless you want to pay for underground car parks. >3/ Please add your own complaint here... No modems. No communications. > > I am not at all related to Titus, but I am a member of ICCA. >I totally disagree with these impressions. >1/ Titus did it's best to run a very nice event. If some obvious >problems >occured (no Internet connection, drinks,etc...) this is in my opinion >entirely the fault of the ICCA, who run this event every year and >should have included all practical details in the contract. This is fair comment. > It is naive >and stupid to think that local organisers can think to everything >and solve all mistakes in the minute. If getting a dongle to connent a modem to a french socket broke down on the basis of its your job, no its your job - I'ld blame the lot of them. >Moreover Titus and SBF organised very nice parties, and please remind me >the last time you have eaten food prepared by a 3-star Michelin chef >in previous WMCCC... Sounds good. But 3-star food that is not currywurst doesn't get appreciated by soem people :( > >2/ a/ Look where you put your feet :) I never have this problem. Nor me. You knwo what germans are like for cleanliness. they even clean the street outside their own houses, separate their rubbish into four groups, and wash out their tin cans before placing them in the rubbish. > b/ Here is another thing that ICCA should have told to Titus: don't >get hotel addresses from the phone book, but from a good tourist guide >(Michelin again :) for instance). I often travel in France or elsewhere >and never trust local organisers. I always checks the accomodation >myself. Moreover for $50 in Paris it's clear you can't have much but at >least acceptable. For $70 it can be very nice I think. Agreed. > c/ Not true. I had very pleasant lunch and dinners at reasonable >prices. I several times tried to invite people from abroad to join me >and got the answer: we prefer fast food or steak, etc...If you choose >that food in Paris you are not at all allowed to complain... Agreed. I made one dinner invite after another, but they all want to eat shit food in shit arab takeaways with no beer. > d/ It is crazy to drive in Paris. I came from Lyon by train >with my DEC Alpha. A lot of people living in Paris even don't have >a car. The public transportation system is very good and much faster. >The RER goes directly inside Roissy Charles de Gaule airport so why >use a car ? Agreed. > >Instead of continuously complaining why not try to help the ICCA make >the next event better by buiding a list of necessary practical details >to >furnish to the next organisers. Agreed, Either make it work, or do it ourselves. Chris Whittington > Moreover if you continue to complain >nobody will be candidate for the next event. > > Joel Rivat
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