Author: Chris Carson
Date: 05:28:25 07/01/00
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On July 01, 2000 at 05:22:56, blass uri wrote: >On July 01, 2000 at 03:57:00, Jerry Adams wrote: > >> >> The Best Software on the best machines are not playing grandmanster level >>chess. Or should I say that Rebel century is an exception? Generally Software >>Programs in my opinion are not demonstrationing grandmaster results? I mean at >>40\2hrs or am I mistaken? > >They are not demonstrating grandmasters results but it does not prove that they >are not playing grandmaster level chess. > >They are not demonstrating grandmasters results because the humans can choose if >to play or not to play them and it gives the humans an advantage. > >I think that the only tournament that it is logical to count(in order to decide >if the machines play in grandmaster level) is the dutch championship because in >this tournament the humans were forced to play the machine. > >I think that Fritz had performance of more than 2500 in this tournament and this >is a GM level. > >Maybe Fritz could get a better performance in this tournament but the programmer >did not try to win on time. > >Unfortunately Games of 120/40+60/all of the game are common in today's >tournaments and it gives computers an advantage and even in the dutch >championship the time control was 120/40+60/20+30/all the rest of the game. > >tournaments of 10-20 years ago were played often in 120/40+60/20+60/20+... > >There is a question what time control do you mean when you ask if computers play >at GM level because 120/40+60/all like the israeli league is not the same as >120/40+60/20+60/20.... > >In the israeli league computers had the disadvantage that the opponent teams >could choose the player to choose against the machine but inspite of this fact >both Rebel and shredder(if you do not count losing on time by an operator error >in a won position) performed at GM level. > >I think that in 120/40+60/all computers are clearly at GM level(it can be >changed if more players will be interested in playing against computers and >taking advantage of the machine's weaknesses). > >The question if computers are at GM level in 120/40+60/20+60/20... is a >different question. > >Uri Good post Uri. :) See my comments: http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?117337 Best Regards, Chris Carson
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