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Subject: Re: How many games make up the book of Junior 6? Good book?

Author: blass uri

Date: 06:11:16 07/01/00

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On July 01, 2000 at 05:35:21, Bertil Eklund wrote:

>On June 29, 2000 at 18:09:20, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On June 28, 2000 at 12:28:57, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>On June 28, 2000 at 03:34:36, blass uri wrote:
>>><snipped>
>>>>I guess that the book is not a good book because I read that it is based also on
>>>>games from championships of childs under 12.
>>>
>>>I remember that I read in this club some weeks or some monthes ago that the book
>>>of Junior6 is based also on games of childs from championships under 12.
>>>
>>>If it is not correct I apologize for believing this statement in this part of my
>>>response.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I think that whenever you make a value judgement on Junior6 you should state
>>whether you have a copy of the program and the book. This is because to my best
>>knowledge you don't, and people can better evaluate your opinion if they know
>>this.
>>
>>Amir
>
>Hi!
>
>I have been a bit sceptical to the Junior6 book, but I was partially wrong, in
>"normal" openings it is one of the best books.

Junior6a lost against zarkov in the millenium tournament in the following
opening:
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 d6 6.Bc4 Qb6 7.Nxc6 bxc6 8.0-0 g6
9.Be3 Qxb2?

My opinion is that it is a normal opening.

Junior had Qxb2 with a ? in the book but this fact did not tell it not to play
it because Junior had not other moves with at least 2 games.
I think that a good book could prevent Junior from playing Qxb2 because it could
tell it to play moves even in cases that there is only one game or no games that
the book is based on.

A good book should be based on knowledge based on previous analysis(based on the
program analysis or GM's analysis and only if there is no previous analysis it
is logical to give the program to count number of games to decide if to trust
the database.

In the case of Qxb2 I guess that there was a previous analysis(otherwise I do
not understand the reason for the ? for this move)

I do not have Junior6 or Junior6's book but I trust Enrique who posted the facts
about the move Qxb2 few monthes ago.

Uri



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