Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 08:13:53 11/07/97
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On November 07, 1997 at 08:12:04, Rivat, Joel wrote: >If I summarize correctly the impressions posted here about WMCCC 15th: >1/ Titus was unable to do anything correctly >2/ Paris is the worst place in the world because > a/ every step you hit a pile of shit > b/ hotels ** are awful and *** rabbit hutchy > c/ food is tremendously expensive > d/ it's almost impossible to drive there >3/ Please add your own complaint here... > > I am not at all related to Titus, but I am a member of ICCA. >I totally disagree with these impressions. Aha. Maybe you should go into the same restaurant we were. Nothing special. Not very confortable. The can of coke costed 18 Francs !! And this is just ONE example ! This is 10 times the price we pay for a can in germany, and 3 times the price you pay in a german restaurant. And there was only this plein can of coke, ... It was not in the best area of Paris, only arround the Hotel block, Rue de Trevise. >1/ Titus did it's best to run a very nice event. If some obvious >problems >occured (no Internet connection, drinks,etc...) this is in my opinion >entirely the fault of the ICCA, who run this event every year and >should have included all practical details in the contract. It is naive >and stupid to think that local organisers can think to everything >and solve all mistakes in the minute. I don't know who was in charge for no internet-access or no drinks (despite this coffee-machine). I just gave my opinion. If you now tell us that this was not Titus fault, ok, I believe it. >Moreover Titus and SBF organised very nice parties, and please remind me >the last time you have eaten food prepared by a 3-star Michelin chef >in previous WMCCC... We proletarians don't wanted to go there. Nearby my hotel I was in danger to step on a clochard lying under newspaper. I have not seen him. And the contrast to go onto such a party is too much for me and my Genossen. > >2/ a/ Look where you put your feet :) I never have this problem. Ask the other members if they have ever seen such an amount of dog-shit in their life before. > b/ Here is another thing that ICCA should have told to Titus: don't >get hotel addresses from the phone book, but from a good tourist guide >(Michelin again :) for instance). I often travel in France or elsewhere >and never trust local organisers. I always checks the accomodation >myself. Moreover for $50 in Paris it's clear you can't have much but at >least acceptable. For $70 it can be very nice I think. I think the hotel was ok. I have seen weaker hotels. > c/ Not true. I had very pleasant lunch and dinners at reasonable >prices. I several times tried to invite people from abroad to join me >and got the answer: we prefer fast food or steak, etc...If you choose >that food in Paris you are not at all allowed to complain... I was never in a McDonalds stuff or something like this by free will. Maybe the group decided , I remember Chris commanded us into such a strange restaurant. > d/ It is crazy to drive in Paris. I came from Lyon by train >with my DEC Alpha. A lot of people living in Paris even don't have >a car. The public transportation system is very good and much faster. >The RER goes directly inside Roissy Charles de Gaule airport so why >use a car ? Chris is used that a slave transports him !! I was not confident with his ideas about : drive me to the airport ! too. I had a handicapped person with me + 3 PCs. My hotel-machine, 2 tournament-machines. + my baggage and peter's. Coming by train would not be possible. I thought better trying it by car and Mchess participates than coming by train and Mchess cannot participate. > >Instead of continuously complaining why not try to help the ICCA make >the next event better by buiding a list of necessary practical details >to >furnish to the next organisers. Moreover if you continue to complain >nobody will be candidate for the next event. Nobody has asked us in the tournament hall for ANY help. We self-organized the internet stuff with our mobiles. Don't see the complaints as an attack. Somehow it was funny to see all the disorganisation ! > Joel Rivat
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