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Subject: Re: Junior6.1's strange mistake from chessfun's games

Author: Chessfun

Date: 10:37:26 07/02/00

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On July 02, 2000 at 13:08:26, Chessfun wrote:

>On July 02, 2000 at 07:14:10, Paulo Soares wrote:
>
>>On July 02, 2000 at 03:10:20, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Though I just realized the pgn don't show TB access.
>>>TB's were on or should have been as Fritz 6 disc was
>>>in during the tourney and you always know when it has been
>>>used as the start-up F6 dialog comes up.
>>>
>>>I will try it on the comp it was run on with TB's on.
>>>
>>>Junior 6.1 - Fritz 5.00
>>>4k3/6Q1/2q5/3b4/1K6/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Junior 6.1:
>>>
>>>90.Qe5+!
>>>  =  (-0.11)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  93kN
>>>90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+ 93.Kxc3
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  105kN
>>>90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+ 93.Kxc3
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12   00:00:01  383kN
>>>90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+ 93.Kxc3
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 15   00:00:09  3932kN
>>>90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+ 93.Kxc3
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 17   00:00:42  18659kN
>>>90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+ 93.Kxc3
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 19   00:03:33  91846kN
>>>
>>>(Bird, Scarb 02.07.2000)
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>I don't understand the reason of the differences among the analyses
>>of the same position placed by Chessfun and the analyses done by
>>Junior6a(default settings) in my computer, PIII-450, HT=99Mb.
>>Main differences:
>>
>>1. The chosen move is different.
>>2. In the analyses placed by Chessfun after the depth 15  appears the depth 17,
>>   while in the analyses that I placed after the depth 15, appears the depth 18.
>>
>>Junior 6.0 - Soares,P
>>4k3/6Q1/2q5/3b4/1K6/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Junior 6.0:
>>
>>1.Qh8+ Kf7 2.Qh7+ Kf8 3.Qh8+ Bg8 4.Qd4 Ke8 5.Qg7
>>  ³  (-0.40)   depth: 9   00:00:01  167kN
>>1.Qh8+ Kf7 2.Qh7+ Kf8 3.Qh8+ Bg8 4.Qd4 Qb7+ 5.Ka5 Qa8+ 6.Kb5 Qe8+ 7.Kc5 Qc8+
>>8.Kd6 Qb8+ 9.Kc6 Qb3
>>  ³  (-0.35)   depth: 12   00:00:02  922kN
>>1.Qh8+ Kf7 2.Qh7+ Kf8 3.Qh8+ Bg8 4.Qd4 Qb7+ 5.Ka5 Qa8+ 6.Kb5 Qe8+ 7.Kc5 Qh5+
>>8.Kb4 Bd5 9.Qc5+ Kg7 10.Qe7+
>>  ³  (-0.30)   depth: 15   00:00:21  10244kN
>>1.Qh8+ Kf7 2.Qh7+ Kf8 3.Qh8+ Bg8 4.Qd4 Qb7+ 5.Ka5 Qa8+ 6.Kb4 Qb8+ 7.Ka5 Qc8
>>8.Kb4 Qa6 9.Qc5+ Kg7
>>  ³  (-0.26)   depth: 18   00:03:44  115427kN
>>
>>(Soares, Cabo Frio 02.07.2000)
>>
>>Paulo Soares, from Brazil
>
>Last night I loaded the position from the actual game as
>I had the pgn file.
>
>Today doing it from the FEN on the same computer I get the
>following which seems closer to yours and Jeroens.:
>
>New position
>4k3/6Q1/2q5/3b4/1K6/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Junior 6.1:
>
>1.Qh6 Qxh6
>  -+  (-9.48)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>1.Qh8+ Kd7 2.Qg7+ Kc8 3.Qf8+ Kb7 4.Qg7+ Ka6 5.Qe7
>  ³  (-0.42)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  13kN
>1.Qh8+ Kd7 2.Qg7+ Kc8 3.Qf8+ Kb7 4.Qg7+ Ka6 5.Qe7
>  ³  (-0.42)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  13kN
>1.Qh8+ Kd7 2.Qg7+ Kc8 3.Qf8+ Kb7 4.Qg7+ Ka6 5.Qe7
>  ³  (-0.42)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  13kN
>1.Qh8+ Kd7 2.Qg7+ Kc8 3.Qf8+ Kb7 4.Qg7+ Ka6 5.Qe7
>  ³  (-0.42)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  13kN
>1.Qh8+ Kd7 2.Qg7+ Kc8 3.Qf8+ Kb7 4.Qg7+ Ka6 5.Qe7
>  ³  (-0.42)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  13kN
>1.Qh8+ Kd7 2.Qg7+ Kc8 3.Qf8+ Kb7 4.Qg7+ Ka6 5.Qe7
>  ³  (-0.42)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  13kN
>1.Qh8+ Kf7 2.Qh7+ Kf8 3.Qh8+ Bg8 4.Qd4 Ke8 5.Qg7
>  ³  (-0.40)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  166kN
>1.Qh8+ Kf7 2.Qh7+ Kf8 3.Qh8+ Bg8 4.Qd4 Qb7+ 5.Ka5 Qa8+ 6.Kb5 Qe8+ 7.Kc5 Qc8+
>8.Kd6 Qb8+ 9.Kc6 Qb3
>  ³  (-0.35)   Depth: 12   00:00:02  920kN
>1.Qh8+ Kf7 2.Qh7+ Kf8 3.Qh8+ Bg8 4.Qd4 Qb7+ 5.Ka5 Qa8+ 6.Kb5 Qe8+ 7.Kc5 Qh5+
>8.Kb4 Bd5 9.Qc5+ Kg7 10.Qe7+
>  ³  (-0.30)   Depth: 15   00:00:21  10094kN
>1.Qh8+ Kf7 2.Qh7+ Kf8 3.Qh8+ Bg8 4.Qd4 Qb7+ 5.Ka5 Qa8+ 6.Kb4 Qb8+ 7.Ka5 Qc8
>  ³  (-0.27)   Depth: 17   00:01:50  50293kN
>
>(Bird, Scarb 02.07.2000)
>
>Thanks.


Though again if shut down then restart and then load it from the
actual pgn and move forward through the game then let in do
infinite analysis I still get:

Junior 6.1 - Fritz 5.00
4k3/6Q1/2q5/3b4/1K6/8/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Junior 6.1:

90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+ 93.Kxc3
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  105kN
90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+ 93.Kxc3
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12   00:00:01  383kN
90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+ 93.Kxc3
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 15   00:00:09  3932kN
90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+ 93.Kxc3
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 17   00:00:45  18589kN
90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+ 93.Kxc3
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 19   00:03:17  84967kN

(Bird, Scarb 02.07.2000)

Shut down again load from pgn with TB's.
Not sure why TB's didn't appear in my other post.

Junior 6.1 - Fritz 5.00
4k3/6Q1/2q5/3b4/1K6/8/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Junior 6.1:

90.Qh8+ Kf7 91.Qh7+ Kf8 92.Qh8+ Bg8 93.Qd4 Be6
  ³  (-0.41)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  6kN
90.Qh8+ Kf7 91.Qh7+ Kf8 92.Qh8+ Bg8 93.Qd4 Ke8 94.Qg7
  ³  (-0.40)   Depth: 9   00:00:01  64kN, tb=29
90.Qe5+!
  =  (-0.11)   Depth: 9   00:00:01  91kN, tb=38
90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+ 93.Kxc3
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9   00:00:01  104kN, tb=64
90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12   00:00:02  357kN, tb=284
90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 15   00:00:10  3588kN, tb=1882
90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 17   00:00:38  15633kN, tb=9255
90.Qe5+ Kd8 91.Qh8+ Kc7 92.Qc3 Qxc3+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 19   00:02:38  68593kN, tb=37300

(Bird, Scarb 02.07.2000)

Thanks.





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