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Subject: Re: Hiarcs7.32's learning bug

Author: Mark Young

Date: 00:05:35 07/03/00

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On July 03, 2000 at 02:24:11, blass uri wrote:

>On July 03, 2000 at 01:30:17, blass uri wrote:
>
><snipped>
>>After the game I tried to give hiarcs the position before 43.Bxb6 and was
>>surprised to find that it can see that 43.Bxb6 is losing at depth 9 and also can
>>find 43.Qe8 in less than 4 minutes
>
>I tested Hiarcs7.32 with selectivity=7 and was surprised to find that it can
>find 43.Qe8 even faster.
>
>Selectivity=7 also can see at the same time control that I tested the default
>hiarcs after the game(1 hour/40 move+3 hours/40 moves that means 4 hours for
>moves 42-80) that 42.axb4 is bad at depth 10(the main line begin with axb4 Bxb4
>and 42.axb4 failed low at depth 10).
>
>It seems that hiarcs is less selective with selectivity=7 because it can see at
>the same depth things that the default cannot see.
>
>I have 2 questions about hiarcs.
>
>1)Is learning off better than learning on?
>2)Is selectivity=6 or 7 better than selectivity=5?

I have found that the default setting are best with Hiarcs 7.32. That means
learning on, and selectivity = 5.

When set up as a position test, Hiarcs 7.32 has no problem seeing that 43. Bxb6
is losing and finding 43. Qe8.

Hiarcs 7.32 - Crafty17.11,U
8/1bB3pk/1p3p1p/1Q3P2/1b1q4/6NP/3rR1PK/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Hiarcs 7.32:

43.Qb5xb6 Qd4xb6 44.Bc7xb6
  µ  (-0.74)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
43.Qb5xb6 Qd4xb6 44.Bc7xb6
  µ  (-0.74)   Depth: 2/10   00:00:00
43.Qb5xb6 Bb4-c5 44.Qb6-b1
  µ  (-0.88)   Depth: 3/14   00:00:00
43.Bc7xb6 Qd4-d6 44.Bb6-f2
  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 3/14   00:00:00
43.Bc7xb6 Qd4-d6 44.Re2xd2 Qd6xd2 45.Qb5-e2 Qd2-d6 46.Qe2-f2
  ³  (-0.51)   Depth: 4/16   00:00:00
43.Bc7xb6 Qd4-d6 44.Re2xd2 Qd6xd2 45.Qb5-e2 Qd2xe2 46.Ng3xe2 Bb4-d6+ 47.g2-g3
Bb7-f3
  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  30kN
43.Bc7xb6 Rd2xe2
  µ  (-0.77)   Depth: 6/21   00:00:00  60kN
43.Bc7xb6 Rd2xe2
  µ  (-0.77)   Depth: 6/22   00:00:00  102kN
43.Bc7xb6 Rd2xe2
  µ  (-1.02)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:01  170kN
43.Bc7xb6 Rd2xe2 44.Bb6xd4 Re2xg2+ 45.Kh2-h1 Bb7-f3 46.Qb5-d3 Rg2xg3+ 47.Kh1-h2
Rg3-g2+ 48.Kh2-h1 Bf3-c6
  µ  (-1.27)   Depth: 7/25   00:00:07  1001kN
43.Bc7xb6 Rd2xe2
  -+  (-1.52)   Depth: 8/25   00:00:08  1179kN
43.Bc7xb6 Rd2xe2 44.Bb6xd4 Re2xg2+ 45.Kh2-h1 Bb7-f3 46.Qb5-d3 Rg2xg3+
  -+  (-1.54)   Depth: 8/27   00:00:11  1547kN
43.Bc7xb6 Rd2xe2
  -+  (-1.79)   Depth: 9/27   00:00:17  2359kN
43.Bc7xb6 Rd2xe2 44.Bb6xd4 Re2xg2+ 45.Kh2-h1 Bb7-f3 46.Ng3-e4 Bf3xe4 47.Qb5-b8
Bb4-d2 48.Bd4-e5 Rg2-g5+ 49.Kh1-h2 f6xe5 50.Qb8xe5 Be4xf5
  -+  (-4.75)   Depth: 9/29   00:00:28  3972kN
43.Qb5-e8 Rd2xe2 44.Qe8-g6+ Kh7-g8 45.Ng3xe2 Qd4-e3 46.Ne2-f4 Bb4-c5 47.h3-h4
Qe3-e7 48.Bc7-b8 Qe7-e1 49.h4-h5
  -+  (-1.72)   Depth: 9/29   00:01:31  11632kN

(Young, 03.07.2000)


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