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Subject: Re: WMCCC next year

Author: Chris Whittington

Date: 05:10:13 11/09/97

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On November 08, 1997 at 19:12:22, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>Thanks Bruce for your explaining words.
>
>The reason I mentioned this case was NOT so much the content of the
>story.
>The point was: I wanted to show that sometimes , or hopefully always in
>a discussion you open yourself to be honest to honor the opponent, no
>matter if you like him or hate him.
>
>Pretending a conflict a priori is not a CHANCE FOR the conflict but
>AGAINST it.
>
>This was the point I wanted to explain or refer.
>
>I know many marriages of my friends where the main problem is not the
>problem, but the fact that the husband denies that there is a problem !!
>
>Sometimes when you try to calm down the conflict here (in a discussion
>between ICCA and critics), I have the feeling that this is the same
>thing that happens in all the marriages of my friends, whenever the wife
>tries to focus the problem (e.g. when he had his orgasm but not her and
>she tries to explain him somehow that they should change something and
>he thinks this is AN ATTACK AGAINST THE SIZE OF HIS "lovemaker").
>So he tries better not to speak about it !
>And she tries to make it right for him. So they don't talk about it.
>Until they are divorced. And then she tells him: I had never an orgasm !
>And he is very confused and says:
>
>Why did you never told me about... I thought you always ...
>
>And therefore the civilized societies have developed a discussion BRUCE
>!
>To help the husband and his wife BEFORE they are in a divorce.
>
>Did you get the point or will you now explain me that you don't have
>problems with your wife and orgasms...
>
>or will you this time understand my point ?

I don't understand this one, Thorsten. I don't think I ever tried to
give Bruce an orgasm :) Was that my mistake ? :)

Chris Whittington

>How shall I explain you - in which language ??



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