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Subject: Re: Creating Opening books ==> don't use CAP data.

Author: blass uri

Date: 10:18:25 07/07/00

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On July 06, 2000 at 23:44:40, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On July 06, 2000 at 21:27:00, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On July 06, 2000 at 19:41:31, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>this is a post i just did at crafty list after a long number of mails about
>>>a project called CAP which people tend to believe they can use it for
>>>creating their openingsbook. Some warnings are on their place, when you
>>>want to let such a book compete with commercial books.
>>>
>>>I first showed that CAP goes completely wrong already quite soon in opening.
>>>Like 1.d4,d5 2.c4,e5 3.dxe5 there best move is d4 all other moves you can
>>>go home and rest but first resign the game.
>>
>>And (as I showed in the Crafty mailing list) CAP supports this choice.
>
>quote from your email:
>
>
>------
>>
>> 1.d4,d5 2.c4,e5 3.dxe5  then what does your CAP play?
>
>dxc4
>------
>
>You answered dxc4
>
>BEEP
>wrong answer.
>
>Now you say suddenly it does play d4.
>However you are faced with a big problem here.
>
>Program's choice.
>
>Some programs like d4, most will never play d4.
>
>Which one to trust?

I believe that most top programs will play d4 if you give them enough time.

Chessmaster6000(ss=10) found d4 in less than 10 minutes.
Crafty17.11 is slower but it also found d4 in less than 4 hours(3:42:17) at
depth 14.

My hardware is pentiumIII450
I used Crafty17.11 as an engine for Hiarcs7.32 with hash tables 128 Mbytes.

Uri



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