Author: blass uri
Date: 08:53:19 07/08/00
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On July 08, 2000 at 11:14:18, walter irvin wrote: >On July 08, 2000 at 00:49:41, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On July 07, 2000 at 21:49:31, walter irvin wrote: >> >>>On July 07, 2000 at 20:52:23, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On July 07, 2000 at 17:07:59, Jerry Adams wrote: >>>> >>>>>I have heard people say that against humans processor is not that significant >>>>>after a certain speed >>>> >>>>I would suspect that DJ runs 5-6 times faster on 8 cpus. Rough estimate. >>>>That is a good ply deeper, plus a bit more... maybe 100 Elo better against >>>>computers. Against humans I doubt it helps _that_ much. Maybe 1/2 of that >>>>or so is more reasonable.. >>> >>>i wish crafty could be in this tourn .i believe crafty is stronger than junior >>>and would score better . also what is the fastest machine that has ever run >>>crafty ????????? >> >> >>The best single-cpu machine was Tim's 21264. at under 800mhz (600 or so I >>think) crafty was hitting near 1M nodes per second. I ran on a 16 cpu 21164 >>machine a year or so ago and hit 7M nodes per second in blitz on ICC. I played >>with that machine on ICC for an hour so so. > > > i cant imagine that ANYONE got even a 1/2 point off that machine ??? do you >have those games recorded????? i sure like to see them. I think that you overestimate machines There is a chance to draw or to win them because of erong opening line. I know also that they do not see everything even about tactics and there are tactical lines that even 200M nodes per second are not going to help to find if there are not software improvement(see the draw that deeper blue did not see in the second game against kasparov). I believe that 100knode per second is enough to see everything that humans can see if you search the right lines but programs do not know to search the right lines. Uri
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