Author: Ralf Elvsén
Date: 22:09:12 07/08/00
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On July 09, 2000 at 00:09:27, Pete R. wrote: >On July 08, 2000 at 19:11:15, Ralf Elvsén wrote: > >>On July 08, 2000 at 18:45:16, Pete R. wrote: >> >>>On July 08, 2000 at 14:59:01, blass uri wrote: >>> >>>>I copied this warning from the kasparov's site(I only changed their big letters >>>>to small letters). >>>> >>>>"The live rebroadcast of these games is exclusive to kasparovchess.com. this >>>>transmission is deemed "time-sensitive information" and any party >>>>rebroadcasting these games while they are in progress will be prosecuted for >>>>rights infringement. we appreciate your cooperation in making chess sponsorship >>>>a viable enterprise and chess a succesful professional sport!" >>>> >>>> >>>>I understand that they say that posting the games while they are in progress is >>>>against the low. >>>> >>>>I want to know if this warning is right for all the countries. >>>>If it is not right for one country someone from that country can rebroadcast the >>>>games and maybe I can watch them because I cannot watch them in >>>>kasparovchess.com in a convenient way(I need to download first microsoft virtual >>>>machine first and after one try that took almost an hour and after it the >>>>download failed because I need to do update to windows I gave up). >>>> >>>>My old computer with old operating system like windows95 is connected to the >>>>internet and it may be the reason that I have problems to watch the games but I >>>>had not problems to watch games on ICC so it is not only my system fault. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>There is nothing wrong with your machine, Kasparovchess simply has a garbage >>>interface. Their playing zone is garbage, everything with java and javascript >>>nonsense is garbage. >> >>Wouldn't that be "everything with java and javascript >>that comes in the form of applets produces garbage >>through my browsers implementation of the JVM" ? >> >>I got garbage as well by I like Java. You can't dismiss a whole >>technology because of this. Besides, I thought the Lost Boys-transmission >>from Holland was pretty good. > >I was still speaking specifically of the java/javascript garbage at KC. It >doesn't have to be that bad. Although I wasn't dismissing the technology, my >practical experience with it has left me generally unimpressed. This may be >simply the way it is implemented in browsers under Windows, who knows. For >example if I enable java in Netscape to run a certain applet, and then disable >it later my system will hang, etc. For a special function like chess playing >though a dedicated Win32 client is simply vastly superior. Perhaps you could >theoretically implement something as good in java, but I have yet to see. If I >want to play chess on ICC, I launch Blitzin and literally in two seconds I am >ready to play a game. It would take ten times that long for a java applet to be >loaded and ready to go, even if had all the same functionality. Anyway there is >no excuse for KC not to have a dedicated client except for very poor business >planning. I agree with another post I saw elsewhere, they had so much startup >money for this venture they should have simply started by buying ICC. Ok then, I agree with most of what you say. I am a little touchy (?) about Java when (as in this case) it is the implementor (CK) and lousy browsers that is most of the problem. I'm not into writing applications such as Blitzin so I can't tell, but I assume it's possible that native applications edge over applets will be significant in the foreseeable future. In this case one should go for e.g. Win32-programs and KC definitely should have done so considering the crap they have produced. Btw, this discussion made me finally download the plugin from Sun that will use the Java 1.3 runtime-environment instead of Netscape's and MS's JVMs. I don't think it is applicable to KC but it will be fun to see what it's like. Ralf
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