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Subject: Re: How to beat Rebel 9 in 16 moves!!

Author: Robert Sherman

Date: 20:56:48 11/09/97

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On November 09, 1997 at 17:00:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 09, 1997 at 16:14:30, Robert Sherman wrote:
>
>>On November 09, 1997 at 13:50:58, Jack Leverette wrote:
>>
>>>Dear Rob Sherman:
>>>This isn't right.  4. ...Nc6. was move 2.
>>>I believe the move is 4. .. Nf6.
>>>
>>>Yours,
>>>The AceyMan
>>
>>Sorry I typed it in fast from memory.  Your right it should be 4....Nf6.
>>
>>Robert Sherman
>
>I ran this thru Crafty at one minute per move on my P5 notebook.  First,
>here is the annotated game score:
>
>  1.    e4    e5
>  2.   Nf3   Nc6
>  3.   Bc4   Bc5
>  4.   Nc3   Nf6
>  5.   Nd5  Nxe4
>                {9:+0.70 Nxe4 Qe2 Nxf2 Rf1 Ng4 h3 Nf6 Nxe5 Nxd5 Bxd5}
>  6.    d3  Nxf2
>                {9:+5.24 Nxf2 Qe2 Nxh1 Nxe5 Bf2+ Kd1 Nd4 Qf1 f6 Nxd7
>Bxd7 Qxh1}
>  7.   Qe2  Nxh1
>                {8:+4.94 Nxh1 Nxe5 Nd4 Nxc7+ Qxc7 Bxf7+ Ke7 Ng6+ Kxf7
>Nxh8+ Kf8 Qf1+ Kg8 Qxh1 Kxh8}
>  8.   Ng5   O-O
>                {8:-2.14 O-O Qe4 Bf2+ Kd1 Qxg5 Bxg5 b5 Nf6+ gxf6 Bxf7+
>Rxf7}
>                {8:+5.74 f5 Nf7 Kxf7 Nxc7+ d5 Bxd5+ Kg6 Nxa8 Bf2+ Kd1
>Qxd5}

Wow! I am surprised at the difference in score here.  I have tested this
game with almost all the top commercial programs (Genius, Mchess, Fritz,
Rebel etc. and they all pick O-O over f5.  While a couple of IM's prefer
f5.  I think this could put an end to DB not playing Qb6 conspiracy
theory.  Very human-like approach of not walking into an attack although
I don't think your scores are accurate.
>  9.  Nxc7  Qxc7
>                {9:+2.57 Qxc7 Qh5 h6 Bxf7+ Kh8 Qg6 Bb4+ Kf1 Ng3+ hxg3
Odd doesn't walk into an attack but walks into a mate in 6.  Again
Crafty show that it is possible for a computer to be scared of an attack
but still miss a deep mate.

>Rxf7+ Nxf7+ Kg8 Bxh6}
> 10.   Qh5    h6
>                {9:-2.44 h6 Bxf7+ Kh8 Qg6 Qa5+ Bd2 Bf2+ Ke2 Ng3+ hxg3
>Qxd2+ Kxd2
> Be3+ Kxe3 hxg5}
> 11. Bxf7+   Kh8
>                {12:-Mat05 Kh8 Qg6 Qa5+ c3 Bf2+ Kf1 Ng3+ hxg3 hxg5 Qh5#}
> 12.   Qg6  Qa5+
>                {11:-Mat04 Qa5+ c3 Bf2+ Kf1 Ng3+ hxg3 hxg5 Qh5#}
> 13.    c3 Qxc3+
>                {14:-Mat03 Qxc3+ bxc3 Bf2+ Kd1 hxg5 Qh5#}
> 14.  bxc3  Bf2+
>                {14:-Mat02 Bf2+ Kd1 hxg5 Qh5#}
> 15.   Kd1   Ne7
>                {14:-Mat01 Ne7 Qh7#}
>                {14:-Mat01 hxg5 Qh5#}
> 16.  Qh7#
>
>
>I didn't study it carefully, but black's move 8 seems horrible, castling
>right into the attack.  there is an 8 pawn difference between O-O and
>f5,
>although I can't say what would happen at a deeper depth.
>
>Where were you wanting Rebel to play a different move?  IE everything
>looks
>bearable up until it castles into white's pieces...

f5 is better than o-o but castling is bearable.  The ?? move is Qxc7

Robert Sherman



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