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Subject: Re: Fritz gets it, Bringer doesn't: How does your program do?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 13:32:40 07/10/00

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On July 09, 2000 at 16:14:12, Tom King wrote:

>On July 09, 2000 at 08:19:46, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>On July 09, 2000 at 06:52:15, Michael de la Maza wrote:
>>
>>>The following position appeared in a game in the U1800 section of the World
>>>Open.
>>>
>>>[D]rnbr2k1/ppq1ppbp/6p1/1Pp1P3/2P5/P2B1N1P/2QB1PP1/4RRK1 w - - 3 22
>>>
>>>White played 22. e6!!
>>>
>>>On a P90 it takes Fritz 6 4:17:38 (that's four hours, seventeen minutes, and 38
>>>seconds) to find this move.  Initially, it gets a score of +0.38.  At 5:06:33
>>>the score increases to 0.56.  Finally, at 6:03:33 the score goes to +0.59.
>>
>>Rebel Century 2.0 (5:46)
>>
>>Nice position, saved this one.
>>
>>Ed
>>
>>00:00  06.00  0.12  1.Be4 a5 2.Qb1 Nd7 3.e6 fxe6
>>00:01  07.00  0.13  1.Be4 a6 2.Qa4 a5 3.Qc2 Nd7 4.e6
>>00:04  08.00  0.10  1.Be4 a6 2.Qa4 a5 3.Qb3 a4 4.Qc3 Be6 5.Ng5+
>>00:06  08.01  0.11  1.Qb3 Bd7 2.Re2 a6 3.b6 Qc8 4.Ng5 Nc6
>>00:08  08.03  0.15  1.Bc3 a6 2.Bb2 axb5 3.cxb5 Bd7 4.Ng5 h6 5.Ne4
>>00:16  09.00  0.14  1.Bc3 a6 2.a4 axb5 3.axb5 b6 4.Ng5 Bb7 5.f4 e6
>>00:21  09.02  0.18  1.Be4 a6 2.Qa4 a5 3.Bf4 Nd7 4.Rd1 Ra7 5.Bd5
>>00:42  10.00  0.16  1.Be4 a6 2.a4 Nd7 3.e6 fxe6 4.a5 Nf6 5.b6 Qd6
>>01:07  10.01  0.16  1.Bc3
>>01:11  10.01  0.22  1.Bc3 e6 2.Be4 Nd7 3.Rd1 a6 4.Qa4 Rf8 5.Rfe1 Nxe5
>>02:21  11.00  0.36  1.Bc3 Qb6 2.Rd1 Nd7 3.Be4 a6 4.e6 Qxe6 5.Ba5 Re8 6.Rfe1
>>05:46  11.31  0.36  1.e6
>>05:47  11.31  0.42  1.e6 Bxe6 2.Rxe6 fxe6 3.Bxg6 hxg6 4.Qxg6 Rxd2 5.Ng5 Na6
>>6.Qf7+
>>12:11  12.00  0.56  1.e6 f5 2.Bc3 a6 3.Bxg7 Kxg7 4.Qb2+ Kg8 5.Bc2 Rd6 6.bxa6
>>
>>Athlon 600, 128 Mb
>>
>>
>[snip]
>
>looks like it's one that Rebel is getting on positional grounds. My program
>doesn't get it after several hours (she prefers the boring move a4). So can
>anyone explain the main line behind the more? Or is Rebel's PV sufficient?

Phalanx also chooses e6, and one ply earlier than Rebel.  However, then it goes
back to Be4:
rnbr2k1/ppq1ppbp/6p1/1Pp1P3/2P5/P2B1N1P/2QB1PP1/4RRK1 w - -
    -> soft time limit 357.14 s
    -> hard time limit 6666.66 s
  8 ->   0:00.96    49649   0 turns
  9     72    96    49650  Qc2-b3
  9 ->   0:12.62   693647   0 turns
 10     57  6479  3531247  Qc2-b3  Bc8-e6  Bd2-f4  Nb8-d7  Re1-e2  Nd7-b6
 10     62 11534  6201567  Bd2-c3  !
 10     62 12560  6679095  Bd2-c3  Pa7-a6
 10     64 21620 11315879  Pa3-a4  Pa7-a6  Pa4-a5  Pa6xb5  Pc4xb5  Bc8-e6
                           Bd2-c3  Be6-d5  Nf3-g5  Ph7-h6  Pb5-b6
 10     69 42317 21935115  Pe5-e6  !
 10     72 45106 23566282  Pe5-e6  Bc8xe6  Re1xe6  Pf7xe6  Bd3xg6  Ph7xg6
                           Qc2xg6  Rd8-f8  Bd2-h6  Rf8-f7  Bh6xg7  Rf7xg7
                           Qg6-e8  Kg8-h7  Qe8-h5  Kh7-g8
 10     74 54206 28112022  Bd3-e4  Pa7-a6  Qc2-a4  Nb8-d7  Pe5-e6  Pf7xe6
                           Bd2-a5  Nd7-b6  Qa4-b3  Pa6xb5  Qb3xb5

It might be interesting to pound the stuffings out of this one and see what
chess engines think at deep time controls and why.




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