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Subject: Re: Which of the programs have the most knowledge programmed into it?

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 16:50:05 07/10/00

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On July 10, 2000 at 19:07:55, Terry Ripple wrote:

>On July 10, 2000 at 18:55:11, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On July 10, 2000 at 14:56:31, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On July 10, 2000 at 14:15:39, Terry Ripple wrote:
>>>
>>>>I know Hiarcs7.32 is one of the most knowledge based programs, but what about
>>>>the famous Shredder4, Rebel Century and Junior6? Where do they average on
>>>>knowledge in comparison?
>>>>
>>>>Best regards,
>>>>terry
>>>
>>>
>>>For me the answer is easy. I know others will disagree...
>>>
>>>The program that knows the most about chess, and has the most relevant
>>>knowledge, is the one that stands the highest in the rating lists.
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>I don't think this is a very good definition, although nobody ever defines it
>>when they ask which program has the most.  I think that what people mean when
>>they say "knowledge" is that a program with more knowledge plays more like a
>>strong human and less like a typical computer, since everyone would agree that a
>>GM human typifies "knowledge".
>>
>>People want "knowledge" in a program because they think they can learn from
>>seeing it expressed.  They want knowledge because they want to ask questions of
>>something knowledgeable and get answers.
>>
>>This has little to do with which robot whacks the other robots.  Computers can
>>play chess in a vacuum, if desired.  It's an interesting thing to do, and lots
>>of people are interested in doing it.  But other people are interested in
>>interacting with the program themselves.
>>
>>bruce
>
>Hi Bruce,
>  You hit the nail right on the head!!!
>I know it's easier said than done, but it would be so nice to learn chess
>knowledge from playing chess programs as there is no better way to retain the
>knowledge from actual experience in a game of chess. Playing one of the masters
>in your club is far superior than reading about how to do it.
>
>Regards,
>Terry

Since no other program beside Deep Blue which used a Super Computer, have
accomplished what Deep Junior is accomplishing at the moment, to compete and
play a la par with the top 10 players in the world at tournament time control; I
would have to say that the latest Deep Junior, not the Commecial Deep Junior,
but whatever improvements Amir had incorparated into his latest Strategical
monster, would be the most knowledgeable program.  Now as far as what program
play the best against other programs it depend, Fritz 6a is on top of the SSDF,
but Shredder is the world P.C. Chess Software Champion, using a single
processor.

Pichard.



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