Author: blass uri
Date: 20:28:12 07/10/00
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On July 10, 2000 at 23:23:58, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On July 10, 2000 at 19:50:05, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>On July 10, 2000 at 19:07:55, Terry Ripple wrote: >> >>>On July 10, 2000 at 18:55:11, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>> >>>>On July 10, 2000 at 14:56:31, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 10, 2000 at 14:15:39, Terry Ripple wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I know Hiarcs7.32 is one of the most knowledge based programs, but what about >>>>>>the famous Shredder4, Rebel Century and Junior6? Where do they average on >>>>>>knowledge in comparison? >>>>>> >>>>>>Best regards, >>>>>>terry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>For me the answer is easy. I know others will disagree... >>>>> >>>>>The program that knows the most about chess, and has the most relevant >>>>>knowledge, is the one that stands the highest in the rating lists. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Christophe >>>> >>>>I don't think this is a very good definition, although nobody ever defines it >>>>when they ask which program has the most. I think that what people mean when >>>>they say "knowledge" is that a program with more knowledge plays more like a >>>>strong human and less like a typical computer, since everyone would agree that a >>>>GM human typifies "knowledge". >>>> >>>>People want "knowledge" in a program because they think they can learn from >>>>seeing it expressed. They want knowledge because they want to ask questions of >>>>something knowledgeable and get answers. >>>> >>>>This has little to do with which robot whacks the other robots. Computers can >>>>play chess in a vacuum, if desired. It's an interesting thing to do, and lots >>>>of people are interested in doing it. But other people are interested in >>>>interacting with the program themselves. >>>> >>>>bruce >>> >>>Hi Bruce, >>> You hit the nail right on the head!!! >>>I know it's easier said than done, but it would be so nice to learn chess >>>knowledge from playing chess programs as there is no better way to retain the >>>knowledge from actual experience in a game of chess. Playing one of the masters >>>in your club is far superior than reading about how to do it. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Terry >> >>Since no other program beside Deep Blue which used a Super Computer, have >>accomplished what Deep Junior is accomplishing at the moment, to compete and >>play a la par with the top 10 players in the world at tournament time control; I >>would have to say that the latest Deep Junior, not the Commecial Deep Junior, >>but whatever improvements Amir had incorparated into his latest Strategical >>monster, would be the most knowledgeable program. Now as far as what program >>play the best against other programs it depend, Fritz 6a is on top of the SSDF, >>but Shredder is the world P.C. Chess Software Champion, using a single >>processor. >> >>Pichard. > >When did Deep Blue do this? I must have missed that tournament. > >bruce The tournament is the match against kasparov. Deeper blue accomplished a better performance in the match against kasparov when no other program did better result than Junior against the top players. Uri
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