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Subject: Deep Junior - Why I Am Bitterly Disappointed

Author: Graham Laight

Date: 02:25:21 07/11/00

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On July 11, 2000 at 03:38:34, stuart taylor wrote:

>On July 10, 2000 at 23:42:34, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On July 10, 2000 at 22:09:32, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On July 10, 2000 at 15:14:49, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>>
>>>>Maybe it is time to ask what Junior's opponents need, and not so much what
>>>>Junior lacks. I find quite extraordinary that Junior didn't lose a game and
>>>>managed to have a strong initiative in 3 out of 4 games. I didn't think any
>>>>program would be capable of this against this kind of players.
>>>>
>>>>Enrique
>>>
>>>You mean that with a very slightly weaker human, junior would appear to have
>>>a very good killer instinct but over here it is thwarted?
>>
>>Not really. I found surprising to start moaning about what Junior may lack
>>instead of raving at the way it plays in Dortmund.

Make no mistake - I am DELIGHTED that in most of the games so far, DJ has come
out of the middle game with a decisive advantage!

However, DJ has failed to turn these advantages into wins. If DJ had done so, it
would now be leading the tournament - with a real chance to win it.

This is extremely disappointing, because it could be a long time before another
computer gets an opportunity like this.

So near - and yet so far...

>>>  But I would say that chess programs all tend to lack the ability to  smell the
>>>opponent kings blood.
>>
>>It's their humanistic side. :)
>>
>>>You didn't think any program would be capable of etc.etc?  But do you think this
>>>will last once the new upgrades will be more familliar to players?
>>
>>I guess that a program may do better against the cream of the crop than against
>>the Van der Wiels. But who knows.
>>
>>In any case, I didn't expect that a program would be capable of delivering this
>>quality when playing top players.
>>
>>Enrique
>
>I mean, maybe new knowledge was added, and the players had yet to discover its
>holes. But when they do it will be seen to be far less stunning.
>S.Taylor

Exactly!

It's one step forward and two steps back at the moment...

-g



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