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Subject: Re: Which of the programs have the most knowledge programmed into it?

Author: Gareth McCaughan

Date: 15:57:13 07/12/00

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On July 12, 2000 at 17:21:30, Dann Corbit wrote:

> Consider a program that searches one million NPS and does no positional
> eval at all.  It only looks at the material, period.  It has no openings
> database, and no EGTB.  It does not bother to order the moves at all
> and does (at least) use NegaScout to search efficiently.
>
> Consider a second program that searches at 1 NPS on identical hardware but
> considers all kinds of positional evaluation and chess knowledge implemented.
> It can do everything Yassar Sierwan talks about in his books (given enough
> time) as far as knowing the value of "pigs on the seventh" etc.  It has
> opening (GM inspected) database and EGTB.  It orders the moves perfectly
> 99.999% of the time and also uses NegaScout to search.
>
> Program 1 makes 13 plies and kicks the butt of program two which makes one ply
> at 60 seconds per move.
>
> Program 1 has more chess knowledge?  If winning is the only measure then the
> answer is yes.

If program 1's move ordering is sufficiently terrible, it won't get
to 13 ply at 60 seconds per move.

If program 2 "orders the moves perfectly 99.999% of the time" then it
makes the right move 99.999% of the time and will beat the pants off
program 1. :-)

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