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Subject: Re: "Effectively" Comp GM strength question is answered!

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 16:38:27 07/14/00

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On July 14, 2000 at 19:22:16, Drazen Marovic wrote:
>On July 14, 2000 at 19:00:32, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>On July 14, 2000 at 18:40:10, Drazen Marovic wrote:
>>
>>>  Scientifically is a comp GM strength?  According to some here no, though i'm
>>>not convinced of that oppinion either.
>>
>>Science has nothing to do with opinion.
>
>Apparently reading has nothing to do with understanding either!  It is an
>oppinion currently as to whether their is enough evidence to say scientifically
>if a comp is GM strength.

Fortunately, science has no need of opinions.  It can ride squarely on the back
of mathematics.  It uses things called "Hypotheses" and if they are testable and
verifiable we can call the outcome a conclusion.

>Further again this term of "GM strength"  Does it
>merely mean a statistical result or is it really more substantive to refer to
>qaulity of play!  If your average bootom of the barrel 2500 GM played in 3 round
>robin 10 game events with Kasparov anand And Kramnik The bottom of the barrel
>2500 GM would probably most likely not get his GM Norm much less get the 3
>required. That would not necessarily mean that he didn't demonstrate "GM
>strength" play.  Geesh the current world champion is barely going to get a GM
>norm in Dortmund and Kasparov isn't even there!

Ah.  The "They feel like GM performaces" argument.  You're in good company
because a lot of people agree with you.  I would hazard a guess that most of
them do.  If you took a poll, they would probably make you think you knew what
you are talking about, because you will win the poll.  Nevertheless, you're
wrong.

>There's not enough statistical evidence
>>to support the Junior GM claim and that's it. But by all means, take a vote.
>>Then Junior would be a democratic GM instead of an actual GM. I would vote for
>>it, if it had a built-in espresso machine. Sadly, it doesn't.
>>
>>Best wishes...
>>Mogens



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