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Subject: Re: "Effectively" Comp GM strength question is answered!

Author: Mark Young

Date: 21:43:25 07/14/00

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On July 14, 2000 at 18:40:10, Drazen Marovic wrote:

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>
>  Scientifically is a comp GM strength?  According to some here no, though i'm
>not convinced of that oppinion either. Regardless though those who make the now
>fairly BOLD claim that comps are not GM strength, will begin immediately now to
>have their oppinions on the issue to be viewed as extremly shaky(whether their
>oppinions should be looked upon in such a manner or not!).  Especially
>considering that J6  has probably been on the market almost a year(maybe
>longer).  If a comp plays one game in 10 at "GM strength" it means that it plays
>"GM strength"( just not always)!
>
>Further All this talk of well GMs will start analysing all of a comps weaknesses
>and then beat them makes them not GM strength is ridiculous.  Say Anand spent
>the next 3 years examining every game that Maurice Ashley has played in the last
>3 years(plus his current games) Anand then manages to beat Ashley 13.5 out of 15
>games(fischer beat stiffer competition 6 -0!). Would that have any bearing on
>whether Ashley was "GM strength?"  I think not.
>
>The term "GM strength" what does it mean?  It means different things to
>different folks, though perhaps it means(AT THE LEAST) to play a game of chess
>vs GM opposition equal or greater to drawing the GM opponent when the qaulity of
>play of the GM opponent in the game would be considered by most GM players to be
>considered on par with the play of the average GM.  Though one can play and lose
>and still have played GM strength chess, Because Anand lost to Kramnik does not
>meant that he didn't play "GM stregth chess".

If it walks like a duck, and looks like a duck it's most likely a duck. The
question has always been can PC programs perform at a GM level on current
hardware. The answer is yes, and it’s doing much better then that, it is
performing at a super GM level as we speak. Junior 6 has achieved such a result
in an all play all tournament at tournament time controls in a super GM tourney.

And I disagree with the argument that it will take 3 years for the public to be
able to buy a machine as fast as the one Deep Junior is playing on, since if you
have the money you can buy such a machine now. In three years time a PIII 700*8
will be junk at the pace we are going. Right now Junior is about 3.5 times as
fast as what I am running. In 6 month or less I will be able to double my speed
again, and that is just with a single CPU.





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