Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 23:39:00 07/14/00
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On July 15, 2000 at 02:30:19, blass uri wrote: >On July 15, 2000 at 02:13:57, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On July 15, 2000 at 01:59:21, Drazen Marovic wrote: >>>Listen I AM a GM!! and have probably been playing chess longer than you have >>>been alive i have played and beaten some of the best in the world when they were >>>the best. I know something that you will never know, i KNOW what GM strength >>>is. Since you don't know you really have no need to argue it is you who are >>>wrong. >> >>I won't argue that you are a better chess player than I will ever be, or even >>that you understand strength better than I do. But suppose that DJ falls to >>stonewall by any chess expert. Is it still a GM? > >I think that GM's know that it is not so simple to win it by stonewall. >They have Junior and can play against it at home. > >My opinion is that it may be not a GM strength against weaker players when the >target of them is to draw[it may get performance of only 2400 against 2200 >players who play for a draw(remember that hasidovski that has less than 2200 >drew 3 computers in the israeli league)] but I believe that it is a GM strength >against 2700 players because the only thing that it must do is not to lose >against them. But to be of GM calibre, must it not also defeat the players well under its ability? Certainly this is true of any human GM. And if the GM's apply the same principles that the IM's do, one might safely assume that they will be even better at it. I don't think it is any cinch to beat DJ using stonewall. About a year ago, I tried 4 stonewall games against the 'decidedly non-pansy but not a GM' GnuChess 4 and did not win any of them (and only on a PII 300 MHz). Therefore, knowing what to do and executing it are clearly different matters. However, for someone who is truly one of the top chess experts in the world, knowing principles that define computer weaknesses, I think they can be exploited. On the other hand, I might be wrong about that. In fact, DJ might win every game it ever plays from now on. But in any case, I still hold to my opinion.
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