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Subject: Re: Upon scientific truth - the nature of information

Author: ShaktiFire

Date: 16:24:29 07/15/00

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On July 15, 2000 at 18:32:52, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On July 15, 2000 at 18:22:59, Ralf Elvsén wrote:
>
>>These are pretty harsh words, especially since I think Uri has a point.
>>Even if it is not correct I wouldn't call it "nonsense" or "truth distortion".
>>These judgements should be saved for more clear cases, and there has
>>certainly been some on this board in the past...
>
>No, he doesn't have a point, since you can't determine GM strength by gathering
>the results of several programs, reach GM strength within the bounds of
>uncertainty and then conclude that one of the programs are GM strength. Because
>you already know that none of programs alone are of GM strength with certainty
>due to a large ELO uncertainty, otherwise it wouldn't be necessary to add them
>together. So nonsense is the appropriate word, even though truth distortion was
>unnecessary harsh.
>
>Best wishes...
>Mogens

That is an interesting point.  I wonder, do you know the elo formulation
enough to say the uncertainty.  For example, Deep Jr. will achieve a TPR
based on playing a 9 game tournament.  Now if we consider the TPR an
estimate of the real elo rating, what is the uncertainty using only 9 games.
How many games required to achieve say a 90% chance of having an elo
rating within + - 25 pts. of the TPR?




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