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Subject: Re: How much further to go in Man-Machine?

Author: Pete R.

Date: 17:27:42 07/15/00

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On July 15, 2000 at 18:56:41, pete wrote:

>To add another opinion :-)
>
>Current results IMO prove that under certain circumstances "computer entities"
>like the Junior one in Dortmund can reach GM-like results.

I don't see any need to tiptoe are the "are they GM strength?" question, it
seems pretty clear to me.  If you define GM strength as entering tournaments and
achieving a GM norm, then I think computers can do this, in fact we just saw it
done twice.  If you mean "can they assess a position as well as a human GM" then
the answer is generally no, because they are not good in certain types of
position due to lack of positional understanding.  We can speculate that
opponents might generally adopt such anti-comp strategies and so a machine
wouldn't be able to achieve a GM norm against such a field, but this is neither
here nor there.  Some players play anti-comp, some don't, and some refuse to
play at all.

The important thing is how well they play generally.  No offense to the DJ team
in any way, but this tournament has given me zero incentive to buy Junior in
addition to my other software, because I see that it plays similarly aimless
moves.  I already have this in Fritz and Hiarcs. ;) If it played good positional
chess and never made a stupid or aimless move, even without winning a single
game, I would pull out my credit card in an instant.  How it plays is vastly
more important than whether it wins.



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