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Subject: Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)?

Author: Bas Hamstra

Date: 08:43:33 11/12/97

>In my opinion there are a couple of programs around who
>are able to win such a tournament. You need a strong
>program but also a bit of luck to be at the very top.

Andreas Mader ran an interesting simulation.

- A mediocre program cannot win a tournament by luck (< 5% chance)
- The very best program may very well end below the top 3 by pure bad
luck
 (50% chance) or even below the top 5.
- Chance that best program wins tournament is only 30%

So one of the toppers will certainly win, but one particularly tipped
topper willl probably not win.


Bas Hamstra.

Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Amir Ban 09:33:37 11/12/97
- Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Andreas Mader 23:53:01 11/12/97
  - Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Jouni Uski 02:08:50 11/13/97
- Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Robert Hyatt 13:04:53 11/12/97
- Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Fernando Villegas 12:36:13 11/12/97
  - Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Amir Ban 03:40:27 11/13/97
    - Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Bas Hamstra 04:21:59 11/13/97
      - Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Chris Whittington 05:13:21 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Bas Hamstra 08:00:51 11/13/97
    - Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Chris Whittington 04:13:03 11/13/97
      - Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Ernst A. Heinz 12:05:50 11/13/97
      - Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Amir Ban 07:14:35 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Thorsten Czub 12:11:44 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Ernst A. Heinz 12:30:52 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Amir Ban 06:02:24 11/14/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Robert Hyatt 10:46:39 11/14/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Chris Whittington 07:44:20 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Amir Ban 08:02:53 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Thorsten Czub 12:14:12 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Chris Whittington 08:45:43 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Amir Ban 05:53:23 11/14/97
      - Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Robert Hyatt 06:36:26 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Thorsten Czub 12:28:05 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Chris Whittington 07:06:34 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Robert Hyatt 10:33:11 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Chris Carson 11:13:19 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Chris Whittington 10:50:11 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Robert Hyatt 12:40:12 11/13/97
        
        Speed vs. Knowledge tournament Chris Whittington 13:07:30 11/13/97
        
        Re: Speed vs. Knowledge tournament Robert Hyatt 19:46:49 11/13/97
        
        Re: Speed vs. Knowledge tournament Ernst A. Heinz 03:05:00 11/14/97
        
        Re: Speed vs. Knowledge tournament Ernst A. Heinz 06:13:52 11/14/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Chris Carson 11:26:41 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Robert Hyatt 12:42:51 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Chris Carson 13:01:49 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Chris Whittington 11:31:50 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Chris Carson 12:04:18 11/13/97
        
        Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Chris Whittington 12:27:43 11/13/97
      - Is "knowledge" catching up with "speed"? Graham Laight 06:16:27 11/13/97
        
        Re: Is Randolph S. Baker 07:42:40 11/13/97
        
        Re: Is Chris Whittington 08:56:39 11/13/97
        
        Hash effects on knowledge vs. search Randolph S. Baker 15:09:38 11/13/97
        
        Re: Hash effects on knowledge vs. search Randolph S. Baker 05:29:54 11/14/97
        
        Re: Hash effects on knowledge vs. search Moritz Berger 16:55:36 11/13/97
        
        Re: Hash effects on knowledge vs. search Robert Hyatt 19:35:43 11/13/97
        
        Re: Hash effects on knowledge vs. search Ernst A. Heinz 10:10:50 11/14/97
        
        Re: Hash effects on knowledge vs. search Chris Carson 10:43:27 11/14/97
        
        Re: Hash effects on knowledge vs. search Howard Exner 18:06:27 11/15/97
        
        Re: Hash effects on knowledge vs. search Chris Carson 05:06:38 11/17/97
        
        Re: Hash effects Chris Carson 07:00:14 11/17/97
        
        Re: Hash effects Robert Hyatt 07:44:54 11/17/97
        
        Re: Hash effects Eugene Nalimov 12:27:59 11/17/97
        
        Re: Hash effects Robert Hyatt 13:06:30 11/17/97
        
        Re: Hash effects on knowledge vs. search Robert Hyatt 20:23:17 11/15/97
        
        Re: Hash effects on knowledge vs. search Howard Exner 23:51:21 11/15/97
        
        Re: Hash effects on knowledge vs. search Johanes Suhardjo 09:56:37 11/14/97
        
        Re: Hash effects on knowledge vs. search Robert Hyatt 10:52:46 11/14/97
        
        Re: Is Thorsten Czub 12:41:02 11/13/97
        
        Re: Is Chris Whittington 07:10:35 11/13/97
Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)? Amir Ban 09:04:42 11/12/97

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