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Subject: Re: About head or tail (was Upon scientific truth - the nature of informati

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 06:25:27 07/17/00

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On July 17, 2000 at 07:15:45, Ed Schröder wrote:

>>>
>>>In the early days of a chess programmer it is easy but when your program
>>>is over 2300-2400 it becomes very difficult to judge a candidate program
>>>improvement. Personally I use a main set of 70-100 positions (frequently
>>>updated) which are tested manually first then a large set of >500 positions
>>>that runs automatically that produces a detailed report and database of
>>>every difference in regard to the previous version. If results are good
>>>then an engine-engine 300 game match is done as described above. In a
>>>later stadium (after a couple of program changes) some auto232 matches
>>>are played. The latter is of minor importance (in respect to the changes)
>>>as too much randomness is involved (book, learning). In the end my feeling
>>>on a program change is the decisive factor.
>>
>>
>>Anyway this is a very time spending task.
>
>That's why most of us need a full year if you know what I mean.


I meant that I am surprised that it does not take longer...


>>>>Playing 1000 games with tournament time control
>>>>takes much too much time. Test positions don't reflect practical play.
>>>>I really have no clue.
>>>
>>>>And that is why I always say thet the top-10 (!) programs
>>>>play at equal strength.
>>>
>>>That's a bold statement.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>>I know. Prove me wrong. :-)
>
>How about a 10 game match....?
>
>Ed


I am not talking of 10 games. And you explained yourself why even 100 games may
give a wrong result.
Or what exactly do you suggest?




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