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Subject: Re: ponder_on ponder_off comparision

Author: pavel

Date: 10:30:00 07/17/00

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On July 17, 2000 at 11:18:18, Volker Pittlik wrote:

>I've played two little tournaments.
>
>Programs: AnMon506, Arasanx_53, Amyf_000420, Bringer16, Comet_B21, Crafty1710,
>EXchess314, Gromit_30, LambChop_710, Phalanx22, SOS_991103, TCB0045
>
>round robin, 20 games each match, time control 60+2
>System: 2*520 MHz Celeron, NT4.0
>Setting: ~32 MB hash each program, learning on, books coming with the program,
>all 4- and some 5-piece TBs
>All games can be found in my gamesArchie:
>http://members.xoom.com/VolkerPi/gamesArchive/archive.htm
>
>Ponder=on
>
>No. Name          Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %    SOP
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>  1 Crafty1710   +140  =39  -41   *0  159.5   220   72.5% 5820.0
>  2 AnMon506     +120  =36  -64   *0  138.0   220   62.7% 5470.0
>  3 Amyf_000420  +111  =35  -74   *0  128.5   220   58.4% 4855.0
>  4 Gromit_30    +106  =36  -78   *0  124.0   220   56.4% 6285.0
>  5 TCB0045      +107  =34  -79   *0  124.0   220   56.4% 4520.0
>  6 Comet_B21     +98  =42  -80   *0  119.0   220   54.1% 6080.0
>  7 Phalanx22     +93  =38  -89   *0  112.0   220   50.9% 7140.0
>  8 SOS_991103    +92  =36  -92   *0  110.0   220   50.0% 6925.0
>  9 Bringer16     +85  =36  -99   *0  103.0   220   46.8% 5140.0
> 10 EXchess314    +49  =45 -126   *0   71.5   220   32.5% 5140.0
> 11 Arasanx_53    +48  =46 -126   *0   71.0   220   32.3% 3860.0
> 12 LambChop_710  +43  =33 -144   *0   59.5   220   27.0% 4765.0
>Total Games:    1320
>White Wins:      596 (45.2%)
>Black Wins:      496 (37.6%)
>Draws:           228 (17.3%)
>Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)
>
>
>Ponder=off
>
>No. Name          Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %    SOP
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>  1 Crafty1710   +158  =36  -26   *0  176.0   220   80.0% 6105.0
>  2 Gromit_30    +110  =42  -68   *0  131.0   220   59.5% 6460.0
>  3 Amyf_000420  +106  =46  -68   *0  129.0   220   58.6% 4520.0
>  4 AnMon506     +110  =37  -73   *0  128.5   220   58.4% 5475.0
>  5 TCB0045      +100  =48  -72   *0  124.0   220   56.4% 4365.0
>  6 Comet_B21     +94  =49  -77   *0  118.5   220   53.9% 6275.0
>  7 Phalanx22     +96  =43  -81   *0  117.5   220   53.4% 7275.0
>  8 SOS_991103    +96  =35  -89   *0  113.5   220   51.6% 6910.0
>  9 Bringer16     +64  =43 -113   *0   85.5   220   38.9% 4945.0
> 10 Arasanx_53    +69  =33 -118   *0   85.5   220   38.9% 3460.0
> 11 EXchess314    +42  =30 -148   *0   57.0   220   25.9% 5500.0
> 12 LambChop_710  +36  =36 -148   *0   54.0   220   24.5% 4710.0
>Total Games:    1320
>White Wins:      564 (42.7%)
>Black Wins:      517 (39.2%)
>Draws:           239 (18.1%)
>Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)
>
>Conclusion
>
>The results of both tournaments are very similar. Tournaments with ponder=off
>and ponder=on seem to give comparable results.
>
>Comments appreciated
>
>Volker Pittlik


you have "good" data to support your understanding thats ponder=on and
ponder=off doesnt make any differance.
but somehow I am still not convinced....
off topic ... thus 'yace' ponders by simply "checking" the ponder=on menu on
winboard?
thanks
pavel

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