Author: Graham Laight
Date: 15:29:55 07/17/00
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On July 17, 2000 at 17:36:23, Ed Schröder wrote: >On July 17, 2000 at 16:38:42, Jeroen Noomen wrote: > >>Hi all, >> >>The Dutch championship and Dortmund have made one thing very clear: Computers >>still have no idea what to do in blocked positions and how to prevent or defend >>against a king's attack. >> >>IMO the situation is as follows, what I will call 'the big chess program >>paradox': >> >>1. I am programmer and wondering what to do about these >> horrible king side attacks and blocked positions. >> >>2. I try a lot of extra knowledge and EUREKA, it works! >> >>3. Unfortunately there is a side effect: The NPS drops from >> 400 KNodes to 200 KNodes. >> >>This 'little' side effect makes me start thinking: >> >>4. If I make this program commercially available, it will >> do bad against other programs. Why? Simple: I had 400 KNodes, >> now I have only 200, so I am outsearched. >> >>5. If it scores bad against other programs, I get a very low >> rating in Sweden and I score (probably) bad in tactical >> positions. >> >>6. After this, all people reading magazines, visiting CCC and >> playing computer programs will say: 'This is a bad program. >> It scores bad, is slow and thus it is weak'. >> >>Conclusion: I, the programmer, will NOT do this. It's commercially >>not a good thing to do! >> >>And then I ask myself: Do I need more NPS versus humans? Is 400 >>Knodes enough? Or do I fancy 4.000? What is the point against strong >>GM's to make it stronger in an aspect of the game (tactics) where it >>is already superior? > >All good points Jeroen well and clear formulated. > >>Dear programmers, Christophe, Amir, Bob, Ed, Stefan and all others: >>I am very interested in your opinion about this matter! > >Well.. last year I started a special topic on the Rebel Home Page called >Chess in 2010 handling this topic. Did you miss it? :-) > >http://www.rebel.nl/ches2010.htm Although I have to say that the opinion poll is conspicuously biased (IMHO), in general it is an excellent, thought provoking page - well worth a visit! -g >Just in case. > >Ed > > >>Jeroen >> >> >>PS You want to know why I started loving Rebel and I still love it? >>Because it is far slower than the top programs, but KNOWS more about >>positional chess!
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