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Subject: Re: When will you release your next version of Rebel Tiger ?

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 10:46:03 07/18/00

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On July 18, 2000 at 10:19:35, Albert Silver wrote:

>On July 17, 2000 at 21:24:39, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On July 17, 2000 at 18:24:24, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On July 17, 2000 at 13:15:03, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 17, 2000 at 09:57:56, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It seems on Chess servers like ICC of FICS, the Rebel Tiger clones are very hard
>>>>>to beat ( Although Gandalf has a some what easy time vs them ). Using Junior 6.0
>>>>>engine, I lose quite a bit to them.
>>>>>
>>>>>Perhaps they could have a better score vs grandmasters at a tounament?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There is a special "antihuman" mode in Rebel-Tiger that is used by -apparently-
>>>>nobody. It does better than the standard "personality" against humans because it
>>>>knows how to handle "closed positions" better, if you know what I mean.
>>>>
>>>>This special mode will be further improved in the next release of the engine.
>>>>
>>>>This mode does not work as well against computers because sometimes the program
>>>>takes too much risk in order to avoid a closed position, and the strategy can
>>>>backfire in this case. So people do not use antihuman mode on chess servers,
>>>>because you find too many computers there.
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately there as been so far too few games against strong rated humans to
>>>>give any measure of Tiger's strength against GMs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>>Is your next version of Rebel Tiger almost finish ?
>>
>>
>>
>>Rebel-Tiger is improved every day. I work almost full time on the engine and it
>>has been constantly improved since the last release.
>>
>>So "finished" is a word I don't understand. :)
>>
>>We will published the new engine... as soon as Ed decides it is time to release
>>it.
>>
>
>As soon as Ed decides it is time.... Of course we are subject to the same form
>of torture regarding his new Rebel Century too. Seems like radical methods are
>necessary:
>
>- Drown him in whining e-mails. Eventually he'll give in. Even if he doesn't
>read the e-mail himself, he'll tire of hiring help to read it.
>- Vow to boycott it. Won't work, he'll know we're lying.
>- And last but not least (the cruelest IMO), create and send him a test suite
>with unsolvable positions (to make the Nolot suite look like a joke), and tell
>him that you don't understand why Rebel can't find the solution when every other
>program, including my kid sister's, solves the whole thing in slightly less than
>a minute.
>
>Ed, are you listening? The people need their programs!
>What are you waiting for???
>Argggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......
>
>                                    Albert Silver

Hi Albert,

Yes I have been listening in fact I have read your contribution twice! One
of the best ever posted here :-)

But serious, the time to release a program is the time when the product
is ready and as bug free as possible. Usually beta testing starts 6-8
weeks before the final release and we haven't even started beta testing
as things are still in development. I think that next month we will start
to give information on our pages what will come. Until then please relax,
after that any new yelling is welcome :-)

Ed



>>    Christophe



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