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Subject: Re: Paris WMCCC - were programs better than in Jakarta (1996)?

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 08:02:53 11/13/97

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On November 13, 1997 at 10:44:20, Chris Whittington wrote:

>
>On November 13, 1997 at 10:14:35, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On November 13, 1997 at 07:13:03, Chris Whittington wrote:
>>
>>
>>>This is not directed specifically at Amir .......
>>>
>>
>>Thanks for not directing anything specifically at me.
>>
>>
>>>I think the whole lot of you are avoiding the crucial issue from the
>>>games at WMCCC.
>>>
>>>The fast searchers, even with 767 alphas, were expected to sweep the
>>>board. Manifestly they didn't.
>>>
>>>Some other fast searchers, running on PC's also under-performed
>>>according to expectations.
>>>
>>>Several programs (ranging from very slow, to quite fast, but none of
>>>them brute monsters) were not even spoken about before the WMCCC as
>>>being of any interest, performed way above expectations.
>>>
>>
>>You need both speed and knowledge, unfortunately for some, but
>>fortunately for the field. Computer chess is interesting because it's so
>>damn hard.
>>
>>The IBM concept of playing 3-4 silly moves per game but still winning on
>>the strength of a gadzillion NPS was properly laid to rest in Hong-Kong
>>and in the 1st DB-GK match.
>>
>>On the other hand, playing against someone who outsearches you on every
>>move is a most unpleasant experience that is not good for your health.
>>
>>I thought there were some programs in Paris who played good chess
>>(Gandalf comes to mind), but just didn't have the horsepower to do
>>better.
>
>This is the old Hyatt chestnut of knowledge-speed trade-off. Knowledge
>is worth 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 plies or whatever.
>

There's no trade-off involved. You simply must be competitive in both.

Amir



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