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Subject: Re: Deep Junior has proved that Hardware is way Over-rated

Author: Pete R.

Date: 15:37:36 07/18/00

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On July 18, 2000 at 14:08:15, blass uri wrote:

>There is a disagreement about this question.
>The programmer of Deep Junior believe that Deep Junior can beat Deeper blue in >a match.

Based on what?  I can say I think I can beat up Bruce Lee, primarily because
he's dead. :)  We don't know how match-ready DB2 really was, maybe they got it
tuned well enough just in time, and were lucky, but in reality it could have
been much stronger.  It's meaningless to say you can keep tuning DJ but DB2
would have to remain as it was, or some such.  Getting all your eval for free in
hardware is still nothing to sneeze at.

My question is still whether all those eval terms are needed to produce a
championship level of play, or whether tuning of existing parameters in a
program like Junior is enough.  If what you say is true perhaps the Junior team
feels that is the case.  Certainly changing a single line of eval code could
cause dramatic changes in playing style to appear (such as not giving up an
advanced knight outpost for nothing), so perhaps modern programs do have enough
terms and a little nudge here and there will avoid these bad positional moves.
Since it looks like DB will never be resurrected, all the current programs have
to do to show that they are just as good is to beat Kasparov at standard time
control.  And stop playing "stupid computer moves". ;)




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