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Subject: Re: When will you release your next version of Rebel Tiger ?

Author: Jason Williamson

Date: 16:44:34 07/18/00

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On July 18, 2000 at 13:46:03, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On July 18, 2000 at 10:19:35, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On July 17, 2000 at 21:24:39, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On July 17, 2000 at 18:24:24, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 17, 2000 at 13:15:03, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 17, 2000 at 09:57:56, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It seems on Chess servers like ICC of FICS, the Rebel Tiger clones are very hard
>>>>>>to beat ( Although Gandalf has a some what easy time vs them ). Using Junior 6.0
>>>>>>engine, I lose quite a bit to them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Perhaps they could have a better score vs grandmasters at a tounament?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>There is a special "antihuman" mode in Rebel-Tiger that is used by -apparently-
>>>>>nobody. It does better than the standard "personality" against humans because it
>>>>>knows how to handle "closed positions" better, if you know what I mean.
>>>>>
>>>>>This special mode will be further improved in the next release of the engine.
>>>>>
>>>>>This mode does not work as well against computers because sometimes the program
>>>>>takes too much risk in order to avoid a closed position, and the strategy can
>>>>>backfire in this case. So people do not use antihuman mode on chess servers,
>>>>>because you find too many computers there.
>>>>>
>>>>>Unfortunately there as been so far too few games against strong rated humans to
>>>>>give any measure of Tiger's strength against GMs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>
>>>>Is your next version of Rebel Tiger almost finish ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Rebel-Tiger is improved every day. I work almost full time on the engine and it
>>>has been constantly improved since the last release.
>>>
>>>So "finished" is a word I don't understand. :)
>>>
>>>We will published the new engine... as soon as Ed decides it is time to release
>>>it.
>>>
>>
>>As soon as Ed decides it is time.... Of course we are subject to the same form
>>of torture regarding his new Rebel Century too. Seems like radical methods are
>>necessary:
>>
>>- Drown him in whining e-mails. Eventually he'll give in. Even if he doesn't
>>read the e-mail himself, he'll tire of hiring help to read it.
>>- Vow to boycott it. Won't work, he'll know we're lying.
>>- And last but not least (the cruelest IMO), create and send him a test suite
>>with unsolvable positions (to make the Nolot suite look like a joke), and tell
>>him that you don't understand why Rebel can't find the solution when every other
>>program, including my kid sister's, solves the whole thing in slightly less than
>>a minute.
>>
>>Ed, are you listening? The people need their programs!
>>What are you waiting for???
>>Argggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......
>>
>>                                    Albert Silver
>
>Hi Albert,
>
>Yes I have been listening in fact I have read your contribution twice! One
>of the best ever posted here :-)
>
>But serious, the time to release a program is the time when the product
>is ready and as bug free as possible. Usually beta testing starts 6-8
>weeks before the final release and we haven't even started beta testing
>as things are still in development. I think that next month we will start
>to give information on our pages what will come. Until then please relax,
>after that any new yelling is welcome :-)
>
>Ed


Sign me up for beta testing!  :))
>>>    Christophe



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