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Subject: Re: But Not Yet As Good As Deep Blue '97

Author: Jason Williamson

Date: 20:53:50 07/18/00

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On July 18, 2000 at 16:26:08, Amir Ban wrote:

>On July 18, 2000 at 11:05:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>I wouldn't begin to claim that DB "outplayed" kasparov in 97.  I do claim that
>>it "beat" him, of course.  :)
>>
>>But in the above, the point is can you find any specific weakness in DB that
>>would lead to GMs discovering that and beating it like a drum?  Can you find
>>any weakness in Deep Junior that would lead to GMs discovering that and beating
>>it like a drum?
>>
>>That is the main difference I see.  We _all_ saw the king safety/blocked
>>position problem in Dortmund.  We didn't see any such problem in DB'97.  It
>>must have weaknesses.  But obviously no glaring weaknesses.  DB'96 had them.
>>Deep Junior (and every other program) of 2000 has them.  DB'97 was something
>>'different' in that regard, even though many want to pound their chests and
>>say "mine is clearly and obviously better" or "it was just a fast/dumb machine."
>>Both are far from truth.
>
>I quote Garry Kasparov who told me that game 1 of the DB'97 match was "a typical
>computer game". Deeper Blue showed gross misunderstanding of king safety and was
>smashed.
>
>Amir

But wasn't Kasparov also quoted as saying after game two he witnessed the birth
of a new kind of intelegence?



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